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To Schopenhauer:

 And your last statement "Everyone can get in touch with God, so i have trouble understanding your point. And please, do not blaspheme the spirit of God. That is a sin that Jesus says is unforgivable (if one truly believed in their hearts that God is an evil spirit)" would only be believed by only the cruelest god and to me is ridiculous. Not only that, but you know that blasphemy is a sin not because it is revealed in the world, but because it was in an old book you read.

I'm not sure i understand you.

God/No God = Meaningless if we dont know what said god wants from us. We can not intuit everything as you would so cheerfully like to believe. Saying this is akin to saying that the Jews Muslims Buddhists and others are just not trying hard enough to figure out god. This is not very believable. 

I have not said we can intuit everything, all I'm saying is that if there really was a God wouldn't you think that there would be a way for his people to understand what he wants? This comes from the Bible, word of mouth, common sense, consience, and any other ways that we may not even know. And yes, Most people aren't trying hard enough to figure out God.

Perhaps the universe is a void. Our believing it is not does not make it so.

Sorry but i do not understand your closing comment.

To Erebus:

Point 1

1.  If there is a divine force the concept of the universe is not "void"

2.  People feel that the universe is not "void"

3.  Therefore there is a divine force (i.e God)
Non sequitur

I must be pretty "off" today because i don't understand what you're saying here.

Point 2

The gift of prayer is from Jesus Christ?  Then prayer was not available before Jesus? 

Not exactly. Before Christ people had to go through sacrafices and building altars or they had to go through the Priests, Prophets, or "Holy" people to talk to God for them. Now that Christ has been the ultimate sacrifice we can all freely commune with God.  

 Point 3

 An all-powerful God will not forgive those who speak ill of him?  Why when making God the fountain of such love did you stop there? Is God's love greater than any other kind?  If so do you imagine the Buddha would not forgive someone who spoke ill of him?

 No, and all-powerful God will not forgive those who believe/think/know that he is an Evil Demon-like Spirit. It's not just merely speaking ill of God. I shouldn't have used the word blasphemy its throwing you guys off. 



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