Brexit

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Ka-pi96 said:

DarthMetalliCube said:
Maybe some Vgchartz Brits can help me b/c I'm completely baffled and confused here.. Two main things I'm confused about as a naive stupid American:

- why tf do you have a vote for Brexit in the first place if the establishment clearly doesn't want out of the EU and is seemingly doing just about everything in their power to keep Britain in the EU despite the majority voting to leave it? I mean it's been like 3 years now has it not? Shit or get off the pot. Why even take the vote? You just cause civil unrest IMO.

- Why is the EU seen as this sort of godlike power structure that you need to support your nation or else you apparently fall into anarchy or something? What have the done specifically to prove their merit in terms of economic benefits, etc? Why is free trade good for Britain. I know as an American Midwesterner it has decimated our local economies.

I mean, Britain obviously surivived 100s of years without the EU did it not? Why is is suddenly crutial that Britain remain tethered to this globalist coalition?

They had the vote in the first place because the tories promised a vote on it as part of their election campaign. They promised a vote on it (assuming people would vote to stay so it wouldn't matter anyway) to try and ensure they got elected in the first place. It was then one of the rare examples of politicians actually following through with one of their campaign promises.

And not being in the EU wouldn't really be that much of a problem if A. the economy, laws and political structure of the country (especially relevant in Ireland) hadn't come to rely on the EU and B. they actually had a decent plan for leaving. Unsurprisingly when you remove something that your country has been depending on for a variety of different reasons and don't have anything at all to replace it, it is going to cause a whole lot of problems. Now if they had done the smart thing and sorted out a deal before setting a date to leave it would have easily worked out much better. They also could have not wasted so much time squabbling with themselves instead of actually trying to sort something out. I mean, they got the extension in March but talk about leaving and getting a deal didn't really start up again until September. WTF?

I think they left it so late so that a) there wouldn't be a lot of time for parliament to scrutinise and find fault in the current deal, which by all accounts isn't any better than the one that Teresa May had negotiated & b) the pressure of the impending deadline and threat of a no-deal Brexit would cause some MP's to panic and back BoJo...

It really is all just attempts to out-manoeuvre the opposition and frustrate parliament - the best example being the proroguing, a super-cynical bid to tie parliament's hands!!