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thismeintiel on 02 November 2019
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RolStoppable said:
Xxain said:

Dont count on it.

MS has made it clear that Stadia will be their major enemy and that is because Stadia is doing what  MS has wanted to do all along. Those studio's MS acquired were not to bloster strength against Sony, but to ensure enough content for the fight for "games as a service" war. MS could care less about winning the console wars and the only reason they're going with another one is just to keep fans on board to help win that fight.

I definitely think you are underestimating Sony. They will not start from scratch. Sony is making moves that ensure all those useres who loved PS4 or PS in general will have hard time not choosing PS5. PS5 is looking to be very similar to Wii U and Switch where Switch literally ate the Wii U and just built on top of it but in PS5's case its not just tech, but user stats: trophies, games, save data, , PS store, Ps now ext. If you gamed heavily on PS4 why would you not choose PS5? You start where you left off.

Microsoft doesn't need an Xbox-focused strategy to perform better than with the huge blunders they committed with the Xbox One. The execution of the Xbox One was so awful that even a mediocre execution of Scarlett is bound to lead to gains gen over gen.

You overestimate brand loyalty a great deal. History has shown time and time again that the majority of gamers has no problem to leave games, save data and achievements behind, because new consoles are bought to play new games. As for starting from scratch, I clearly refered to installed base and there's no debate that the PS5 will start with sales of 0.

That's hardly a guaranteed thing, though.  XBO isn't exactly going out with a bang like PS3 did, which helped gain gamers' trust and interest, some of who they may have lost at the start, in the PS brand going forward.  It also helped the PS3 crawl past the 360, even though the 360 had almost all the advantages PS4 had early in its lifetime.  It doesn't hurt that there actually is very strong brand loyalty for PS in EU and Japan.  The real point, though, is that Sony didn't just sit around saying, "Please, be excited for next gen," while releasing mediocre game after mediocre game, with maybe one or two good ones in the mix.  Something Xbox has been doing the past couple of years. 

Even if Xbox tries its hardest next gen, there may be tons of gamers who are just done with them, at least in terms of HW.  And we know the boss, MS, is more interested in going into the streaming side of things, something that also may put gamers off.  I mean, if Scarlett doesn't perform well for the first year or two, I wouldn't be surprised if MS pulls the plug on making more, putting those resources into pushing xCloud/GamerPass.  PlayStation consoles, on the other hand, are very important to Sony.

It's also important to note that the PS4 is the first time Plus was required for online play, meaning more people got it and took advantage of the games it provided.  We also have 1M+ subbed to PS Now, which will continue to grow now that the price was halved.  Add in the great exclusive output mentioned above, PS4 B/C, and the fact that PS5 and Scarlett will be pretty damn close in power (with rumors saying PS5 is a little more powerful) and probably price, there is even less reason to switch next gen.

As for your other post, you are correct that B/C isn't ever a main factor to buy a new console, but it does help.  However, in the XBO's case, B/C definitely doesn't matter when it comes out 2 years after launch.