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TonsofPuppies said:
Chrkeller said:

STEM is mostly desk jobs.  Most aren't industrial manual labor.  I work side by side with engineers daily.  I rarely leave my office.  The other point, 14 years ago maybe 10% of STEM coworkers were female.  Fast forward and I would say that is 30% today.  It has changed.  There is an interest driven by having the opportunity.  The biological argument that women aren't interested in STEM is complete and utter bull****, at least here in the States.  I can't speak about other countries, given I don't live there.  My daughter is beyond interested in STEM.  So are 30% of my coworkers.  STEM and manual labor are absolutely not the same thing.  Back in the 70s expectations for women were greatly different when compared to men.  This has changed, and we are seeing the results.  Gender bias was absolutely a real thing.  Heck my mother, when my twins were born, literally said they don't have to go to college because they can marry a man.  She is a product of her generation.  Again, I can't speak about other countries, but in the States...  yeah, it has changed.  

You're acting as though more women entering the workplace in past 50 years is exclusive to STEM fields. There is more female representation across ALL professions than there was 50-60 years ago. The creation of birth control in the 1960s played a massive role in freeing women from some of their "biological shackles" and thus allowing far more women to enter the workplace.

100%. This is also the biggest factor in the pay gap. women are new to these fields, all they men that where in charge and dominated the field dint just disappear so at every industries its why its usually old guys in charge making the big bucks. so while up until like the mid 30's, we have good representations in most fields, but these big bosses are usually people in their 50's or 60's and in those times it was primarily men who did all jobs, not just high paying jobs.Eventually there will be old women in those positions. I dont think theres much more we can do to accelerate this. Just let time do its thing. in 10-20 years when the old men pass on the flag, they will have both men and women who have as much experience to choose from. 



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