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Chazore said:
FloatingWaffles said:

Who says it has to be a response to EGS though? Valve does plenty of things behind the scenes and is always advancing Steam with stuff like Steam Proton last year and just recently Remote Play Together. This deal could easily have been just-as-business usual for them regardless of whether the EGS existed or not, we don't know if EA approached Valve or Valve approached EA either. 

It'll be dumb if everything Valve does from now on since the inception of the EGS is just immediately credited to EGS because of "competition finally forcing them to do stuff" when they've already been doing plenty of different things for Steam for a long time already. 

Yeah, this is something I wish people would get a grasp of, rather than simply assuming this via feigned ignorance. Valve is a business like any other, and thus they conduct their own business the way they see fit. They've been working on games and software tools for years now, but because EA showed up with Origin, or Ubi with Uplay, and certainly not when EG and EGS. 

What amazes me though, is people talking about Epic's little contributions of recent times, but not Valve's (like Proton for example, or the recent remote play for local co-op, which is frankly amazing and much needed from all the other clients in the PC space).

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even care about Origin or Uplay either. This is the same company that would literally rather not mention a single word about Half-Life for 12 years now than simply give people an answer as to why HL2 EP3 never came out no matter how much they asked. I just can't see them feeling threatened by any other possible storefront in that case, but maybe i'm wrong.

What's really gross about it too is it's like people are trying to act as if EGS are actually the ones to thank/credit for any new feature Valve creates for PC gaming (ie. "we wouldn't have these new things if not for your competition, thank you EGS") and not Valve themselves, you know, the people who actually spent time working on this stuff. I've seen people legitimately post "see, this is why competition is good" in regards to the EGS in threads of Valve doing new things while conveniently ignoring all the things Valve has already been doing for years now before the EGS was even a thing. (Hell, Proton was just 4 months before EGS even came out). But according to these people Valve didn't do anything new at all until after it became a thing. 

Like you said, most of it probably is feigned ignorance but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if some people are actually dumb or delusional enough to believe that EGS scared Valve into some sort of overdrive mode where they somehow created things like Remote Play Together, the new steam UI, etc in less than a year. 

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 30 October 2019