The PS4 has become my favorite system of all time.

[DonFerrari]

The_Liquid_Laser said:

DonFerrari said:

Seems like you need to play more PS4.

Days Gone, Horizon, Death Stranding, Concrete Genie, Dreams, Astrobot, Until Dawn, Nioh, The Last Guardian, The Order, Knack, Driveclub, Spider-Man, plenty of new IPs released this gen.

I'll give you Horizon Zero Dawn, because I forgot about that.  And you can count Until Dawn too.  Can't count most of the others.

Death Stranding is not out yet.  Those other games are either not particularly great or are sequels.  The Last Guardian and Spider-Man are sequels.  Nioh is a Dark Souls clone.  Perhaps the main "original" games this generation are the ones that copy Dark Souls.

Boy, it's really hard to think of good original PS4 games, isn't it?

You don't thinking the game is great doesn't discount it being a new game.

Last Guardian isn't a sequel, there are hints that it is in the same universe of the other 2, but gameplay wise it is totally different game. And how the first S-M game made by Insomniac is a sequel? Is that because there were other S-M before or because Sunset Overdrive resembles it? I didn't even gone there and cheat listing God of War as new title because it is totally different than the others and the story have like 1% cross with the past ones.

For you it may be hard, I have no issue over it.

LudicrousSpeed said:

DonFerrari said:

You may not care, but the fact is that if sales of Sony 1st party is a lot higher and the quality as well then hardly you can say that they increased their reliance on 3rd party. But let's the numbers do the talking.

Sales of Sony first party games SHOULD be higher. There are less first party games for consumers to choose from and what, 20 million more consoles for people to buy games for? What exactly do sales have to do with anything I posted, anyway? I said Sony is releasing less games this gen and relying more on third party. These are facts. I don't care what their software sells, I don't care what the metascore is.

Yes sure, the sales and quality of Microsoft games have skyrocketed from they making less games right?

So you just want to sprout BS using a generic quantity of games, great to know. so I don't think I need to reply back anything else you say in response.

DonFerrari said:

PS4 exclusives scores by metacritic                                                 PS3

95+ - 1                                                                                         3

90-94 - 9 (2 by 3rd parties, with one now being multiplat)                 10 (1 by 3rd party)

85-89 - 12 (6 by 3rd parties)                                                           16 (2 by 3rd party)

80-84 - 12 (5 by 3rd parties)                                                            18 (3 by 3rd party and one prologue)

Considering we still have at least 18 months with know Death Stranding, TLOU 2, Dreams and GoT to be released the comparison doesn't seem as bad as you paint on the quantity of quality titles on both system, plus there will be an online game made by ND in place of the MP for TLOU2. And since you agreed on the critical acclaim I don't need to reinforce that. Now let's see best sellers.

PS4 Sony published by VGC (yes PS4 will be damaged due to digital not tracked)            PS3

10M+  -  1                                                                                                                  1                                                                                                     

5-9,99 -  5                                                                                                                  4

1-4,99 - 20                                                                                                                 28

Total   83,33                                                                                                              105,65

Your metacritic list is irrelevant, but lets analyze it anyway.

You say there's one PS4 exclusive with a 95+ score. It's a port of a PS3 game. That's a point for my argument.
You say there are nine PS4 exclusives with a score between 90 and 94. There are actually seven, which is fine. But of the seven, you have:

Uncharted sequel (franchise started on PS3)
God of War sequel
Two PS3 ports
One PS2 port
Amazing VR game
Souls clone developed by outside company

I said Sony is relying on less games and being less creative, you aren't exactly making a strong case here by showcasing these metascores. I don't think I even need to analyze the rest of that list, and I'm going to completely ignore the sales stuff because it's completely irrelevant.

A brilliant analysis made just to dismiss what you don't like or agree, congratulations. 

DonFerrari said:

Considering lack of the traking for digital and the games that will release Sony will have sold more SW on PS4, also will have more games selling over 5M and over 10M than PS3.

So all of that shows that Sony have depended less, made better quality titles, gained more acclaim and sold more than PS3. Basically none of your points really stands, unless of course you want to only count the total quantity of titles released independent of quality or sales (besides that the total of titles amount that meets sales or critic isn't that much different, and if we were on both critics and sales PS4 would be wining).

Again, considering context and logic, Sony should sell a lot of software on PS4. AFAIK it's over 100 million sold. I don't even know what that last part is trying to say.

When a company is selling more of their own SW, total and having more high sellers, you can't claim they are relying more on third parties at all.