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Intrinsic said:
CrazyGPU said:

most people go for 16 GB of RAM, I would like to get 24 if the machine is spected to go until 2027.

Lol..great necrobump. Fun times indeed.

As for RAM... I really don't see 24GB happening.. at least not in the way you suggest. I expect next-gen consoles to have anywhere between 20-24GB of total RAM. But not all GDDR6. Basically an X (where x is the amount of GDDR6 RAM) + 4GB of LPDDR4 RAM. So either 16GB GDDR6 + 4GB LPDDR4 or 20GB GDDR6 + 4GB LPDDR4. My money is on the former because consoles really do not need more than 16GB of GDDR6 for games.

Lastly, I think you will be pleasantly surprised how big a generational jump this will be. It's like people forget that games like GOW, Detroit, TLOU2, RDR2...etc were made on consoles with a jaguar CPU (that next-gen CPUs are almost 8 times better than) and a 1.8TF GPU. Mind you, clock or clock that is 1.8TF GCN GPU is equivalent to a 1.3TF RDNA GPU. And next-gen we are getting like 10TF of the stuff. Can you start to imagine how GOW would have looked like if it was made on hardware that is like 7-8 times better?

heheh necrobump!. yes, fun times!.

I said I would like to have 24 GB for a machine that last 7 years, but I agree that we most probably get 16 GB of DDR6. It´s just hope.

I guess you were saying 1.8 GHz GPU and that 1.8 GHz GCN is equivalent to 1.3 GHz RDNA. I guess we are getting 8 TF of that (RX 5700), but again I also hope that we get 10, something closer to a 5700 XT but with HW Ray tracing.

I wonder if Sony doesn´t prefer to slow down the clocks for better consumption like they did with PS4.

If you remember the HD 7850 and 7870 had 860 MHz and 1000 MHz while the ps4 custom GPU had 800 MHz.

1800-2000 MHz is pretty high, but we have to wait and see. I wish they get there. 

It won´t be the generational jump that we had from PS1 to PS2, or PS2 to PS3, but

from PS3 to PS4 the CPU performance increase was almost null. Here´s the link

http://www.redgamingtech.com/ubisoft-gdc-presentation-of-ps4-x1-gpu-cpu-performance/

With this 4-7x time jump and SSD support, we can have great worlds with many many objects on screen. 

you were speaking about GOW and you are right, but I thing about games like GTA V.... GTA V was made for PS3. That system had 512 MB of main memory which 256 were for graphics. The city of LA inside 256 MB of RAM. RDR2 on PS4 is amazing, and there we have 8 little cell phone jaguar cores. 

I guess 8 ZEN2+ cores with 2 threds each, and 16 GB of ram backed with a PCI 4.0 SSD wil be Dark Magic in Rockstar developer´s hands. I wonder what Santa Monica and Naughty Dog are planning. 

Graphically speaking we will get a bump, but nothing compared to the CPU side, because of the diminishing returns in graphics power. 

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/167673-ps4-and-xbox-one-the-diminishing-returns-of-next-gen-console-graphics

But 6-7x is not a bad thing to have!. I´m pretty happy, of course I would love to have ray traced native 4k 60 fps games, not going to happen of course, but at least the PS5 will be better for 4k and more technologically advanced than the PS4 for 1080p when it lauched. Games will look better not only in resolution and thats great. 

I wonder if some people will think that this next gen will be good enough like what happened with mp3 and wma against CDs or external sound cards against onboard audio. I also think that we´ll get a PS5 pro down the road and maybe a PS5 ultra. Maybe after that there will be a niche PS6 but many will play as a service. In ten years, Networks will probably allow good streaming. We are starting that war with XCloud, STADIA and PS NOW. For me I hope there are still people wanting the box and speculating about the future, hehehe.