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Chazore said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Well said!

And lord knows out of anyone, I definitely welcome a diversity of opinions, and certainly think a healthy, thriving society should almost NEVER be total lockstep with ideals/beliefs. Even controversial views should be welcomed if they're backed up with enough logic and a strong enough argument.

But christ you'd think this is one of the few instances where the moral stance and the "side" you take is pretty cut and dry, at least if you're part of a free society!

It does amaze me how seemingly no matter what your stance, no matter how logical and good-willed, there's always some out there in internet land who will somehow find objections with it. If this thread aint the ultimate proof.. XD

I welcome diversive opinions. I do not however welcome some that have been given within this thread, because some folk are being devil's advocates deliberately for either shits n' giggles, or trying to diffuse one's attention to something (which is ideally a goal they'd like to achieve, thus thinking they know better than anyone and desire them to follow their lead via said diffusal), as well as some simply throwing human compassion right out the window, over a few trinkets, trinkets that won't be around in 100/1000 years time, and would matter very little by then, but human history so far has not. 

I know two people within this thread are being insanely disingenuous as hell, and I'm not going to say it surprises me, because I've known them over the years and semi-expected those sorts of responses.

The fact some try to find objections, shows they don't care for discussions, and just want to go "ha, I'm right", or trying to control the topic itself, which I care little for.

This is one of those times where we have to actually do something about this shit-show, or we're forever dammed to letting idiots run everything, excusing everything and mocking those that want to take a stand. I know some here like to amount it to petty nothingness, and that it won't change anything, but they forget human history, let alone it repeating itself, and when it repeats itself, the consequences tend to build up, then explode, and well, we all know how that ends.

Definitely! Yeah I'm down to hear coherent rebuttals and explanations but in the case of Blizzard the best I've heard in their defense is "welp! thems the rules!" Really? The rules forbid you to speak one line expressing verbal support of an oppressed group? If those ARE the rules then they need to be changed. The rules don't always = right. If that's the best argument they got then I don't buy it. The other big one is "I don't want political statements in my games.." The hell? Firstly it's one line, spoken at one eporting event. It isn't IN the game. And second - they say "political statement" as if it's controversial or debatable. It isn't. Both tremendously weak arguments.

I'm down for "picking your battles" but this is one battle worth fighting for IMO. To me wealth is a hollow concept without morality.

People making excuses and being so passive is what allows theese sorts of oppressive, Authoritarian regimes to fester and grow. And we sadly seem to have an excess of that mentality in Western society in particular these days..

And part of it is that some people just don't seem the big picture. Even if this particular incident seems relatively small, its potential implications are discouraging at best and utterly frightening at worst. 



 

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