Finally joined the PC Master Race

[Peh]

goopy20 said:

Conina said:

So Pemalite proves that Battlefield 1 on medium (similar to console settings) runs in 1080p with 30 - 50 fps on an almost 7 year old GPU (Game Oct 2016 - GPU March 2010 = 6.5 years, almost a whole console cycle) and your take from that is "720p with framerates constantly dropping to 20fps"?

No, that video doesn't show GPU requirements or that a 560GTX or lower became pretty much useless in 2015. It only shows that the old models weren't in the top 15 anymore... and why should they, when dozens of other GPUs have been released since then?

GTX 560 + 480 weren't even on sale anymore for years, so people who bought a new PC (the PC gaming hardware base was also insanely growing the last decade) didn't even have an option for these cards.

Also you seem to think that most GPU upgraders buy a new GPU because they are forced to by system requirements of new games... that's not how it works. Most PC gamers upgrade their GPU when they want to upgrade and see a nice deal... long before their old GPU becomes useless. And in that case, they can often sell their old GPU for a few hundred bucks to people with less demands in graphics (f.e. people who play other genres like point&click adventures, strategy games, sport games...).

You said that you would have been "less pissed" if you bought a $200 for GTX 460GTX in 2010 instead of a $500 GTX 480 GTX for a usage of 4 years. But eventually the difference of your "investment" wouldn't have been $300 but probably less than $200, since the resell value of the GTX 480 was much higher. And for these $150 - $200 difference you would have enjoyed much better graphics in these 4 years.

Also the video proves that the GTX 560 was never nearly as popular as the GTX 1060 (which you claimed above).

At its peak (April 2012) it was in 4.6% of the surveyed Steam PCs (hardware base / active steam accounts less than 50 million in 2012, so around 2.3 million GTX 560). On the other hand, the GTX 1060 still is in 14.5% of the surveyed Steam PCs (hardware base / active steam accounts 200 - 300 million, so around 30 to 40 million GTX 1060).

If you truly believe the 480GTX is still a good enough gpu nowadays, then fine. It all depends on what games you want to play and what settings are acceptable to you. However, if you want to play all the big games at similar performance compared to the ps4, it's pretty obvious that it's not going to cut it. 

I can't read minds and I have no idea when the average pc gamer starts thinking about an upgrade. But I'm guessing that happens when games like BF6, Witcher 4, GTA 6 etc. come out and run at 12fps, 720p on your pc. MAybe that's fine for some people but I'm sure that for the majority of pc gamers, that will be unacceptable and will upgrade asap. So yeah, when games take a generational leap, it does force gamers to upgrade to either a next gen console or a better gpu. It's not like that's a bad thing. Hell, I can wait to give Sony my money and play the next gen GTA. 

You know, you could have avoided this whole discussion of yours if you've just argued that you have a specific set of preference as to what you consider playable which in return will force you to upgrade your PC to accommodate it.