| goopy20 said: Ok, so you're basically saying that the Xbox One X/ ps4 pro will run all of the next gen games fine? I'll just be over here, crying in a corner as that kinda sucks. |
That isn't what I am asserting at all... And the worst part is, you know that.
| goopy20 said: Look, a 580GTX was a $499 high-end gpu when it was released and is basically the same as a 660GTX. So yeah that would also run any ps4 game just fine. Like I said, anything comparable or higher than the 660GTX that's inside the ps4 will run fine. However, anyone with a lower spec gpu of that time had to upgrade. |
Nah. I have provided plenty of examples of the Radeon 5870.
Fermi managed to hold onto it's own for a long time as well.
| goopy20 said: But when the ps4 came out 2 years later, it became pretty much useless overnight. Yes it could still run AC Unity but at 12fps in 720p at the lowest settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4xQD7AeM2o |
Shit example for so many reasons.
Here is Assassins Creed Unity running on a Geforce GTX 480 (2010 GPU) with 30+ fps.
| goopy20 said: Like I said a million times, we don't know exactly how these next gen consoles will perform. But yes, if it's 2060/2070 RTX level, then a 2060/ 2070RTX will be the minimal requirement and a 2080 or higher will probably be recommended to play them at the highest settings. This really isn't rocket science man. Next gen a 1060/ RX580 will be what the 560GTX was when this console generation started. |
You might finally be starting to get it. Maybe.
Yes we have no idea how next-gen consoles will perform, so falsely asserting you will need an RTX 2080 as a minimum to match their specs means you are just throwing false assertions out into the wild and trying to pass it off as factual when that is far from the case.
The Geforce 1060 and RX 480/580 will be sticking around as "gaming capable" in the PC sphere for years to come. - Why? Because they are some of the most popular GPU's currently in use by gamers as reflected by Steams hardware statistics, irrespective of what hardware next-gen uses.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
| goopy20 said: Off course you can always dial down resolution but what you seem to be missing is that console games are not optimized for 4k, they're optimized for 1080p or even 900p in some cases. |
They are optimized for whatever the developer sees fit and what the hardware is capable of.
The base Xbox One and Playstation 4 are theoretically capable of 4k, but the refresh rates would take a giant hit thanks to the older HDMI version, hence why such functionality isn't exposed on those consoles.
| goopy20 said: Meaning, there won't be much head room to play them at lower resolutions on older hardware. If you think a next gen GTA6, looking like minecraft because you have to play it in 460p at the lowest settings, is still playable, then fine man. But for me that is not an acceptable way to play anything. |
No one has suggested we should play at 460p, lowest settings. Nor has any of the benchmarks I presented dropped to such a low level to get them to run on antiquated hardware anyway... Meaning your dig is pretty redundant.
| goopy20 said: Ok my bad, it was $200 and came out 2,5 years before the ps4. Still doesn't change the fact that it was a pretty common gpu before the ps4 came out. Just like the 1060GTX is the most common gpu among gamers right now. The 560GTX was a capable enough gpu back then until the ps4 came out and games started running at 12fps in 720p at the lowest settings. And no, that wasn't just AC Unity, that happened with almost all major games that weren't cross platform anymore. Here's what BF1 looks like on a 560GTX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzppk-pZsIc Or Batman AK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTmKuGUYgM FF15 hitting 20fps on a 560 TI : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3c0HG3gF_g So looking back, doesn't it make sense that the same thing will happen with the 1060GTX? |
Here is the Geforce GTX 480.
Battlefield 1, 1080P, 30+ fps, medium:
Batman Arkham Knight:
In general the GTX 480 is not only faster than the 560, it's older too. You get what you pay for.
The age of the hardware isn't important, it's the performance tier it offered in the first place.
If you buy low-end or mid-range hardware, then it simply isn't going to last as long, that is what history is telling us, that is what the evidence I have provided says.
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