Finally joined the PC Master Race

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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Because if Raytracing really comes with the new consoles, they will also not have any more FPS unless they came with a drastically different, simplified implementation or just use Raycasting instead of raytracing and call it a day. There's a reason there haven't been any games in the past to use either Raytracing or rely exclusively on volumetric elements (aka Voxel. And no, Minecraft doesn't use Voxel despite calling the blocks like that).

Sure.
Ray Tracing is still stupidly demanding and still in it's relative infancy, Ray Tracing is something that will become progressively more demanding and more prominent as time goes on, it hasn't just happened overnight, it's been years of progress, Ray Tracing cores did allow us to take a big leap forwards, but we are far far far away from living in a fully ray traced world, it will be a hybrid rasterization+ray tracing approach for years to come.

goopy20 said:

Ok if you want facts. Just look at the early ps4 titles that weren't cross platform anymore, like AC Unity. Black Flag, which also came out on 360 and ps3, ran beautifully on almost any gpu. However, as soon as developers ditched the older gen, this happened...

Assassin's Creed Unity PC Specs Require a Lot of Your Rig

You might be forced to upgrade if planning to play Unity on PC.

Ubisoft today announced the minimum and recommended PC specs for Assassin's Creed Unity, and let's just say it's going to generate Nvidia and AMD some new business.

A 64-bit operating system is required in order to play Unity, and you'll need a whopping 50 GB of hard drive space to install it. The processor and RAM requirements aren't especially noteworthy, but what stands out most are the video card requirements.

A GTX 680 or HD 7970 is the bare minimum for what will run the game. The only video cards supported at release are the GTX 680 or better; the GTX 700 series; the HD 7970 or better; and the R9 200 series. Laptop versions of these "may work but are not officially supported."

By comparison, the last Assassin's Creed game, Black Flag, recommended a GTX 470 or HD 5850 (GTX 260/HD 4870 required), both of which are significantly older than what's being asked for by Unity. Even looking at other games that have been or will be released this fall--Alien: Isolation (GT 430/HD 5550), The Evil Within (GTX 460), and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (GTS 450/HD 5870)--show how Unity's requirements blow them all away

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/assassins-creed-unity-pc-specs-require-a-lot-of-yo/1100-6423137/

And yes, maybe the minimum requirements aren't 100% accurate and you can get the game running on a 660GTX as well. But anyone who wanted similar or better graphics compared to the console versions had to upgrade back then to at least a 670GTX. Also, as soon as all of the major developers stopped supporting the ps3/360, minimum pc requirements went up big time and the 200/ 400 GTX series became pretty much useless overnight.

Nice cut and paste job.
But you are missing the point. Still. You are still clinging to developer/publisher recommended/minimum specs as some kind of gospel, we have already proven they are inaccurate.

Here is assassins Creed Unity running on a Radeon 5870, 1080P 30-40+ FPS.


As you can see you don't need a Radeon 7970/Radeon R9 200 GPU.
And to show a Geforce GTX 480 didn't "become useless overnight" here it is running Unity, 1080P some ultra settings, 30fps.



Again, you have been proven wrong.

goopy20 said:

If you don't believe me, I double dare you to try and get AC Unity running on that Radeon HD 5770 without setting your house on fire. 

Don't shift the goal post. We were talking about the Radeon 5870, not 5770.
But you know what? I'll still prove you wrong anyway, just for kicks and giggles.

Here it is running on a Radeon 6770. - Which is a rebadged Radeon 5770.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/4296/amds-radeon-hd-6770-radeon-hd-6750-the-retail-radeon-5700-rebadge

Chazore said:
Two people in this thread are bringing benches, and other undeniable facts to the table. One of them is highly knowledgeable of PC hw and tech in general, while a third person brings their "opinion" to the table, asserting it as fact.

This is going to go around in circles, because one person refuses to yield to the textbook facts.

It's certainly been entertaining, that's for sure.