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Ganoncrotch said:
Not gonna quote that block of text but you're cherry picking and focusing areas where the x360 did good and ignoring like I said the fact that every unit sold without a hdmi (and loads with) are in a landfill at a cost of over a billion to ms

Also Xbox live didn't launch on the x360, charging 60 for online was the brainchild of the og Xbox it was the 360 which offered digital discounts for the service and eventually free games to counter Sony's psn+ subscription. Again though that 60 per year isn't money from nothing, services cost money to maintain its not like every 60 handed over the counter in GameStop appeared as net income on Microsoft's accounts

Just a couple of things.

-Dreamcast was (in the US) the first to officially charge for online. A whopping $20 a month!

-Original Xbox charged $50 a year. Xbox 360 didn't charge $60 until 2010. 

-PlayStation Plus didn't kick off until 2010. Up until then, their online service was totally free. Up until the 2013 launch of the PS4, online play was still free on all Sony consoles.

Basically, if Microsoft wasn't making a decent profit charging $50 or $60, Sony was doing worse because they were giving it away for free! But I saw it as a calculated loss since, at the time, the PS3 needed every bullet point it could against the surprise popularity of the 360. Before the two went head to head in 2006, many (including myself!) thought it was just another Dreamcast.