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Bofferbrauer2 said:

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JRPGfan said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

looks like both of you didn't understand why they test in 720p.

They also do test in 1080p, 1440p and in 4k (the latter only in GPU tests), but the CPU score comes from 720p as it eliminates the GPU limit. It's to push the GPU limit as far away as possible to see what the reserves of the CPU are for future, more demanding games or doing stuff on the side, like streaming for instance

1440p tests are good to see what they reach now, but doesn't show what the limits of the CPUs are, since those tests are always GPU bound. So no 1440p bench can tell you if the CPU has any headroom left. Granted, it's not perfect (core utilization, or lack of it, has an effect on the score), but it still shows how much headroom, if any, the CPU has left.

Thats just it though.... its a non-sense test, because it doesnt reflect the real world usage of the CPU.
It honestly shouldnt matter to anyone who's fastest at 720p (eliminating the GPU limits) because thats never going to show up in real world usage.

"It's to push the GPU limit as far away as possible to see what the reserves of the CPU are for future, more demanding games or doing stuff on the side, like streaming for instance"

Rather wait for the future to get here, and then see then, how they actually perform, instead of useing a metric that doesnt matter, to try and predict the future.

In my view those 720p tests, are just numbers without meaning, for bragging rights.
Its a stupid test, if it doesnt actually reflect anything (no one buys these monster cpus, or gpus to game at 720p).
Also you cant be sure that what works now at 720p benchmark, will reflect performance in the future.

That makes it a worthless bench.
And a bad way to compare CPUs.


Not stupid or worthless at all, knowing the CPU raw power can be useful in many cases, if one uses the PC for other tasks besides gaming, or if some devs decide to push gameplay and game world complexity instead of graphics, this for the present, and it can be useful to plan future GPU upgrades too.
Taken alone that test would be pointless, but taken together with higher res tests it helps coming to useful conclusions, for example that if you play at 1080p or 1440p and don't plan a major GPU upgrade soon, you can just buy the cheapest CPU amongst the top 12, but if you plan to upgrade at regular and not too long intervals, one time the CPU and the other the GPU, and you stick to high-end GPUs, it will be better considering the top 5 CPUs. Obviously benchmarks alone won't be enough, knowing the architecture is important too, as an important criterion to decide a CPU upgrade is how soon your favourite devs will start using more efficiently more cores that they currently do. But those benchmarks are useful also for buyers on a budget, as they tell them how cheap they can go without noticing a major performance downgrade, how cheaper they can go with a downgrade that keeps performance still more than acceptable or how many compromises they'll have to accept if they absolutely want to, or must, go even cheaper.



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