| rickthestick2 said: But a God who is not proven in all things is not God at all. What God would not instill in all his creation his own mark of Creation? Throughout humanity, people have realized there is a God not only because they don't understand why certain things happen, but because the whole concept of the Universe is void without something Divine. The Love of Jesus Christ however is spread by Faith. The reason why Jesus had his disiples and why he called upon Saul/Paul is because a Christian is given to the world the continue God's plan. So yes, Jesus Christ is the way, but what of before Christ? What of theose who have not yet heard of the Christ? Are they utterly damned to Hell? No, because God doesn't work that way. He loves all men and salvation for them is given through Christ but not by the way of the book. First I want to say men don't get in touch with God for being "good". Now about getting in contact with God, this too me is a foolish point. It is because people don't believe they can get in touch with God or that they don't believe in God or that people don't know what to do if they were in touch with God. It is because of Jesus Christ that humans have the gift of prayer. Everyone can get in touch with God, so i have trouble understanding your point. And please, do not blaspheme the spirit of God. That is a sin that Jesus says is unforgivible (if one truly believed in thier hearts that God is an evil spirit)
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I will admit one thing; I think we are talking past each other. I understand Erebus much more than what you are trying to tell me. We wouldn’t know gods plan without our books so yet again so my point still stands. And your last statement "Everyone can get in touch with God, so i have trouble understanding your point. And please, do not blaspheme the spirit of God. That is a sin that Jesus says is unforgivable (if one truly believed in their hearts that God is an evil spirit)" would only be believed by only the cruelest god and to me is ridiculous. Not only that, but you know that blasphemy is a sin not because it is revealed in the world, but because it was in an old book you read.
God/No God = Meaningless if we dont know what said god wants from us. We can not intuit everything as you would so cheerfully like to believe. Saying this is akin to saying that the Jews Muslims Buddhists and others are just not trying hard enough to figure out god. This is not very believable.
Perhaps the universe is a void. Our believing it is not does not make it so.
