| JWeinCom said: I get what dysphoria is, but that really wasn't my question. I guess what I don't understand about trans people is whether or not they are transitioning because they actually feel like another gender, or is it because they like to behave in a certain manner which would be acceptable for the other gender, but not for them. In other words is the dysphoria based on what they are vs society's expectations, or what they want to do vs society's expectations? For instance, if we had a world where a man was not judged for wearing dresses, makeup, being emotional, or other things that are typically considered feminine, would we see a decrease in the amount of people transitioning from male to female? |
I am part of the LGBT community... And from what a ton of Trans people have told me, it's that they feel they are trapped in a body that doesn't belong to them.
It has absolutely nothing to do with society expectations, their mannerisms/how they act.
They simply feel they aren't the person they are supposed to be, which I can relate with. Hence the Gym example.
Just because a man wears a dress, makeup, is emotional... And has feminine outward characteristics, doesn't make them Trans, they can still identify as the sex they were born with.
Whether if such judgement has any effect on the amount of people undergoing transition? That's a good question, Transitioning/Transgender seems more common now, because people are more free to be who they want to be in the modern era.
In short, they don't need to live in the closet.
| o_O.Q said: "Clearly you don't understand the concepts of being transgender and transitioning" I'm arguing against the idea that a man becomes a woman through simply identifying as one without transitioning |
And the reason why your argument is redundant is because you don't understand the fundamentals of being transgender and transitioning.
| o_O.Q said: so... just to clarify you think transitioning or as jweincom would say "conforming to gender stereotypes"(looking and behaving as a man or a woman is expected to) is necessary to be regarded as the preferred gender for a trans person? |
No.
| o_O.Q said: you haven't understood jweincom's argument I believe and hopefully he'll work with you a little more what he is saying I believe is that we need to work on breaking down this idea that a woman has look or behave a certain way and that a man has to look and behave a certain way, so if I'm right, for him transitioning is not necessary for a trans person to be their preferred gender |
I think he can present his own argument rather than have you possibly alter his intention.
But you are right, men and women aren't obligated to act or behave in a certain way. - But that isn't what being Trans is about, that isn't what Transitioning is about either.
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