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o_O.Q said:
sundin13 said:

First of all, that ignores all of my primary rebuttals to your post. It is little more than a "Look over here" rebuttal which seeks to distract from the conversation instead of confront it.

Second, a resounding "Who cares?".

Third, pointing to open litigation establishes nothing. Stupid people sue for stupid reasons literally every day. That doesn't mean we should throw out laws. From what I've read, it seems those handling the case agree that this is stupid, so it seems highly unlikely that it will result in anything worth complaining about.

"First of all, that ignores all of my primary rebuttals to your post."

because its pretty hard to make certain arguments in this context when we can't even agree on something as basic as whether humans can be classified into male and female

I remember when I first watched this video a year or two back, I honestly couldn't believe that someone could be so bold to make such a blatantly stupid claim... but now its actually becoming a dominant ideology, its really is absolutely amazing and now I'm starting understand why that person felt so assured in making that proposition

anyway "are considered within the law under the "Bona Fide Occupational Qualification" provisions of anti-discrimination laws, which essentially state that if a certain quality is fundamental to a position, the employer may discriminate based upon that quality."

how can that apply here when this ideology is claiming that trans women literally are women?

I would have posted this rebuttal before but as I've said we don't even agree on the fundamentals here so...

"Second, a resounding "Who cares?"."

uh ok

"Stupid people sue for stupid reasons literally every day."

fair enough

I strongly suggest you stop having dishonest "debates" on topics with which you obviously won't change your mind on. Either you have a legitimate comprehension problem when it comes to other ways of thinking (that would explain why you make so many logical fallacies in your arguments as a way to connect the dots) or maybe due to the anonymity and unaccountability the internet gives you, you have grown a disconnect with your online and irl personas so you don't care about the truth of the matter or learning anything anymore and have since become comfortable in this state. So because of this you instead focus your energy on espousing factually and politically incorrect propositions, moving goalposts, misdirecting a convo you started, blatantly being duplicitous on your positions, etc. (to the point where it's satirical) just for your own personal satisfaction. I honestly don't know what satisfaction you would get out of this though, maybe you want someone to hear you or maybe you just want someone to get frustrated with your underhanded way of debating. Or it could be something else ENTIRELY, idk I don't know you, I can only go by what you've shown.

Either way, if you really want to know the experiences and issues of trans individuals and what they go through, go to your nearest LGBT center and just listen to them speak. Since you aren't on the internet and among a queer environment it'll be harder for you to do as you do here and you'll learn something and hopefully change your opinion.

Just a tip.

Last edited by tsogud - on 04 September 2019