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CosmicSex on 03 September 2019
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o_O.Q said:
CosmicSex said:

"so why do trans people own my perception?"

I just said that you don't own their perception.  Why would they own yours?  What?

"this is about as relevant as me saying back in the day people were trying to stop people from having sex with sheep"

Comparing mixed race sex to bestiality  Don't be a sick f*ck.  Why did you even take it there?

"the problem is people dictating to OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR OWN PERCEPTION OF REALITY"

Wrong.  NO ONE is telling you what to do.  They are only telling you how they fell and perceive themselves.  You just can't handle it.  

Example:  This is how I feel about myself and this is how I want to live my life

You: You are messing with my perception of you!  How dare you.  Live like I SAID you should!

Just back off.  You are trying to turn yourself into a victim because they wont comply with what you want. 

"that I will do with my own perception of reality despite whatever delusional utopian ideology is in vogue"

You don't know where you end and other people begin. 

"I just said that you don't own their perception.  Why would they own yours?  What?"

you're saying that the trans person gets to dictate to me what my perception of them should be are you not?

"Comparing mixed race sex to bestiality  Don't be a sick f*ck.  Why did you even take it there?"

I didn't compare the two i'm simply saying that what you said was irrelevant

"They are only telling you how they fell and perceive themselves.  You just can't handle it."

ok let say this guy 

demands that women perceive him as attractive even though clearly he is not, should those women be forced to change their perception of him?

"You don't know where you end and other people begin. "

can you elaborate on what you are trying to say here?

"you're saying that the trans person gets to dictate to me what my perception of them should be are you not?"

I literally said the opposite.  NO ONE gets to dictate to anyone what their perception should be UNLESS their perception means to do you harm.  Got it.  Don't try to unpack it,  it is really simple. 

"I didn't compare the two i'm simply saying that what you said was irrelevant"

'As relevant as' is a comparison.  Period.  There is nothing to debate here.  You compared mixed race sex to sex with animals.  Just stop while you are ahead.  I have no interest in discussing this further.

"You don't know where you end and other people begin. "

"can you elaborate on what you are trying to say here?"

Okay got you.  See this is the point:  What you are failing to realize is that you are never supposed to feel forced to accept what other people perceive.  Or even what they want you to perceive.  Insisting that you have to is nonsense.  And this goes both ways.   No one is forcing you to accept their lifestyle and you don't have the right to tell them how to live or who to be.  Repeat that last sentence to yourself until you find peace.  

You let them live their truth because it doesn't affect you and because you want to live yours without people on your back about what you should be doing.  When I said you don't know where you end and other people begin, that is what I meant.  You and them should not feel forced to comply with each others perceptions. The hostility comes from disrespect and intolerance projected at each other.  That is not living. 

You learn more about yourself by talking and learning about people who you are not.  Not by changing everyone into you.