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the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

"Therefore: all people are not B."

so you are making a distinction between transwomen and biological females? you do understand that this is a no no right?

>so you are making a distinction between transwomen and biological females?

1.) In the quoted portion, I'm only showing you what your logic chain was for the above portion.  

2.) Might there be instances where you make such a distinction?  Sure.  A doctor might need certain kinds of information about hormone treatment, surgeries, etc.  A lot of the same information they might need for anyone else.  

For regular day to day life there isn't any kind of need for such a distinction.  

>you do understand that this is a no no right?

No.  What is a no no is intentionally misgendering someone just to be a jerk.  

o_O.Q said:

you know what's funny? how no one can answer that question directly, all that happens constantly is deflection, its very very revealing

i'm going to ask you too and again I expect, you'll either ignore it or deflect again

>how no one can answer that question directly, all that happens constantly is deflection, its very very revealing

I see you assuming what I'll do...  

o_O.Q said:

"so, therefore, if I was a man with a 10 inch penis, full beard, 6 foot 3, buff from hitting the gym all the time, this means that I become a woman in your view if I simply say I feel like one inside

are you in agreement with that or have I strawmanned you?"

I'll gladly call you a woman.  I personally don't care even if you were lying, because some random person's gender doesn't affect me.  

Either you're being sincere, and it's important to you.

Or you're lying and it makes no impact on me.  

o_O.Q said:

"What gender would you say this person on the right is?"

"Ignoring that, do you think women can't be buff?"

how are either of these questions relevant to the question I asked?

Now, who's deflecting? 

o_O.Q said:

"Why do you bring up a "10 inch penis"?"

maybe I'm just fascinated by large penises, you have to admit that 10 inches is very large and some men do have penises that large

I'm just wondering why you'd think it's relevant.  

o_O.Q said:

"Is a scrawny man with only a 3 inch penis, and no beard less of a man?"

no, but isn't that around the size of an intersex person's penis?

according to this ideology would that person not be closer to what you have called as a third sex than a man?

this is not my position but it sounds to me like it might be yours

>according to this ideology would that person not be closer to what you have called as a third sex than a man?

Which isn't how it works.  

"For regular day to day life there isn't any kind of need for such a distinction.  "

ok

"I see you assuming what I'll do... "

because you've done it several times before but I'm glad to see that you've made the plunge now

"I'll gladly call you a woman.  I personally don't care even if you were lying, because some random person's gender doesn't affect me.  

Either you're being sincere, and it's important to you.

Or you're lying and it makes no impact on me."

well that's good, you at least appear to authentically accept that biology has no bearing on whether a person is a man or a woman

so in your opinion this guy broke the women's weightlifting record?

https://twitter.com/zubymusic/status/1100348562041462784?lang=en

"Now, who's deflecting? "

this is like me asking if you know how much poop an elephant can expel in one sitting and expecting you to treat that like its a part of the flow of the conversation

the fact that women can be muscular has no bearing on me asking if all that matters is identity

"I'm just wondering why you'd think it's relevant."

because I actually think biology which means the physical reality of the structure of bodies plays a role in whether a person is male or female, i don't think that simply because exceptions exist then that means that categories must be discarded with

whether you guys understand it or not that is the position you are taking, I understand that the idea is to be inclusive, but if there is no limit to it then obviously all you're doing is discarding the categories

now you'll argue that this is not the case, but you have discarded all boundaries when it comes to physical classification of male and female which is absurd

and in addition to that biology and again this means the physical reality of the structure of bodies then has a role to play in gender