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o_O.Q on 02 September 2019
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the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

"You can be trans and not transition. Moreover, you can be trans and not want to transition. "

good so you are in agreement with some of the most prominent thinkers on this issue

as an example: " it is hypocritical for any self-identified feminist to use “biology” and “body parts” arguments in their attempts to dismiss trans women"

in effect transwomen are women no matter what once they identify as a woman

>in effect transwomen are women no matter what once they identify as a woman

This doesn't logically follow from his comment.  It's basically:

Some people are A. 

Some people are B. 

Therefore: all people are not B.

o_O.Q said:

so, therefore, if I was a man with a 10 inch penis, full beard, 6 foot 3, buff from hitting the gym all the time, this means that I become a woman in your view if I simply say I feel like one inside

are you in agreement with that or have I strawmanned you?

What gender would you say this person on the right is?

Ignoring that, do you think women can't be buff?

Why do you bring up a "10 inch penis"?  Is a scrawny man with only a 3 inch penis, and no beard less of a man?  

"Therefore: all people are not B."

so you are making a distinction between transwomen and biological females? you do understand that this is a no no right?

you know what's funny? how no one can answer that question directly, all that happens constantly is deflection, its very very revealing

i'm going to ask you too and again I expect, you'll either ignore it or deflect again

"so, therefore, if I was a man with a 10 inch penis, full beard, 6 foot 3, buff from hitting the gym all the time, this means that I become a woman in your view if I simply say I feel like one inside

are you in agreement with that or have I strawmanned you?"

do you have an answer for this question or will you continue to bring up other things in the hope that I trip up somehow and the conversation can be steered away from this question?

all I'm trying to understand here is whether all of the proclamations of acceptance for this idea are actually sincere and as expected, it seems that this is not the case

"What gender would you say this person on the right is?"

"Ignoring that, do you think women can't be buff?"

how are either of these questions relevant to the question I asked?

"Why do you bring up a "10 inch penis"?"

maybe I'm just fascinated by large penises, you have to admit that 10 inches is very large and some men do have penises that large

"Is a scrawny man with only a 3 inch penis, and no beard less of a man?"

no, but isn't that around the size of an intersex person's penis?

according to this ideology would that person not be closer to what you have called as a third sex than a man?

this is not my position but it sounds to me like it might be yours