SaveJames - Liberal mom forcing her son to act like a girl?

[o_O.Q]

sundin13 said:

o_O.Q said:

" They are generally stating the objective truth that there is more to an individuals biology (and thus, sex) than genitals."

by completely dismissing the role of biology?

you went on a long spiel over numerous posts about how it is both presentation and biology that both construct gender

now when I post examples of people literally dismissing the role of biology(I haven't even posted the really damning bullshit yet) you dismiss your previous position, which to quote you was this

"Again, we are speaking about how gender and sex work together to bring to mind the attributes associated with femaleness"

"This isn't unlike the difference between sex and gender. They are two distinct concepts, however, they do work together to produce the full view of maleness and femaleness. "

"And yes, gender and sex can be both separate and still work together."

""Behavior and presentation" are certainly important components of maleness and femaleness, but remember, we are talking about both the biological and the societal aspects of maleness and femaleness. "

how could you ever believe this position is commensurate with:

"I would argue that all of these appeals to biology are inherently anti-feminist."

"So it is hypocritical for any self-identified feminist to use “biology” and “body parts” arguments in their attempts to dismiss trans women."

"Actually, this “simple fact” of trans women being “biologically male” is inaccurate"

the most damning quote of all in my opinion:

"So who is best fit to decide someone’s sex, and thereby assume their gender identity? Is it society, a doctor, or the individual themselves?"

what do you understand this quote in particular to mean? tell me your interpretation of what this person is trying to convey here

I'm loving this conversation, it really is rather revealing

"by completely dismissing the role of biology?"

Wow, they didn't say that!

"you went on a long spiel over numerous posts about how it is both presentation and biology that both construct gender"

Wow, I didn't say that!

Like, this is a true feat at this point. How in the actual fuck can you look at a set of words, read them and then tell me, the person who wrote those words, they said something completely different from what they actually said? And how do you expect me to have a discussion with someone who continually, in almost every single post, demonstrates a complete lack of reading comprehension skills? I am not here to baby you, or spoon feed you my argument over and over again while you gargle and regurgitate your bile all over this thread.

I think the only thing that we may ever agree on, is that this conversation is truly and deeply revealing.

"How in the actual fuck can you look at a set of words, read them and then tell me, the person who wrote those words, they said something completely different from what they actually said? "

this is where the magic of quoting people comes into play

"by completely dismissing the role of biology?"

Wow, they didn't say that!

"I would argue that all of these appeals to biology are inherently anti-feminist."

"So it is hypocritical for any self-identified feminist to use “biology” and “body parts” arguments in their attempts to dismiss trans women."

are you like having a laugh or something mate?

""you went on a long spiel over numerous posts about how it is both presentation and biology that both construct gender"

Wow, I didn't say that!"

"Behavior and presentation" are certainly important components of maleness and femaleness, but remember, we are talking about both the biological and the societal aspects of maleness and femaleness. "

"Again, we are speaking about how gender and sex work together to bring to mind the attributes associated with femaleness"

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 31 August 2019