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SuaveSocialist said:
VAMatt said:

1.  Those demonstrate that as the number of guns in West Korea has increased, the number of people being killed by them has decreased.  

2.  you'd still have the problem of doing so being a violation of everyone's basic human rights.     

1.  The level it decreased to is still so high that it cannot be stated that firearms ownership makes people safer or even has a causal influence in the trend, especially when compared to the levels held by developed nations with gun control (many of which are experiencing decreased levels of their own).


2.  Firearms ownership is not a basic human right.  It's not even acknowledged as a human right (check the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights if you don't believe me).  Heck, West Korea is virtually the only developed country that holds it as a right for its own citizens, and even West Korea fails to advocate for its adoption globally.

"Firearms ownership is not a basic human right."

in america it is

you do understand that arming the proletariat is one of the central tenets of socialism right? how can you be a socialist when you are in favour of disarming workers and giving all power to the state to oppress those workers? are you being serious right now?

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 16 August 2019