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mysteryman said:
Pemalite said:

So how do I determine right from wrong? How does anyone? Empathy, pain, fear... Devices that are driven by life experience, governed by chemical processes that I alluded to prior... Matt Dillahunty could probably explain it better than I can though.

That's not using the scientific method though. At some fundamental level there is a core belief at work (doesn't need to be religious).

It is most certainly backed by the scientific method.

o_O.Q said:

nothing can really be proven to be true though, we make the assumption based on repetition

We can prove something to be true to such a large extent by having enough empirical evidence as to remove all doubt. - But what has no evidence? The God claim.

o_O.Q said:

"False assumption considering you haven't provided a single shred of evidentiary support in this thread thus far."

i'm not the one making vast assertions on how things work


"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_theory"

how does this substantiate your argument?

How doesn't it?

o_O.Q said:

"False."

elaboration on how?

Really? He doesn't have to do a damn thing.

o_O.Q said:

"Genetic and environmental factors can cause irrational reactions to something"

"can" is very different to "always cause"

Everyone has a tolerance spectrum, so there is obviously some measurable deviation.

o_O.Q said:

"Another name is the "Fight or Flight response"."

fight or flight responses are evolved reactions that occur before a person's conscious mind is able to process what the threat is properly

this is obviously different to someone actually consciously perceiving something like cotton balls and having a response

Which is governed by electro-chemical impulses governed by our brains... You know that thing you asked me to prove? Yeah. That. Which I did.

The brain is a highly complex organ, the fight or flight response is most certainly governed by parts of the brain... And can certainly include conscious thought, not always, but can.

o_O.Q said:

"Sexuality is a spectrum."

its not and it obviously can't be since sex occurs through the interaction of bodies, the primary sexual characteristics of those bodies follow two forms - penis and vagina... sure there's also anal sex but obviously sexuality is bounded by how our bodies develop

You are conflating sex with sexuality. In short... You are confused about the topic... I highly suggest you read up on sexuality and sex and how they differ.

o_O.Q said:

"But other species have "identified" as other animals... You raise a squirrel with kittens and it will start to purr."

animals cannot "identify" as anything, they are not self aware

sure they may change their behavior depending on their environment but its not a purposeful self-conscious imitation of some other group

If an animal starts to mimic the species of another, then they identify as such.

Those who are Trans don't just come out and say "I Identify as a man" to everyone they meet. - They look, behave and act like a man from the outset.

o_O.Q said:

"And that enjoyable feeling from that chemical reaction promotes repetition of an activity."

ok then why don't people cheat on their lovers anytime the opportunity presents itself? if its just about the dopamine rush?

You make it sound as if people cheating is something that doesn't happen in the general populace? WELL. Do I  have a few stories to tell...

People can override the dopamine rush with conscious decisions, it's called "Self control". - Just like how some people can "decide" to eat healthy (As sugar can create a dopamine rush too!) or give up cigarettes.

o_O.Q said:

"Consciousness is a very subjective term and is difficult to quantify either way"

primarily because we don't really understand it

We understand more than you think.



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