Least liked console from each of the big 3 and why

[Rafie]

Burning Typhoon said:

Rafie said:

Sub 1080p?! The machine runs most games at 1080. Sure the Pro is a little bit better, but hardly anything significant. Not that big of jump like the Xbox One to the One X. The regular PS4 seems to handle games just fine in my opinion. I don't really hear complaints from gamers about hardware performance when it comes to the PS4. My "it's really no different than Xbox One and Switch" stance was in response to how you made all of the hardware gripes about PS4 when for the longest time was the strongest console in the world. I was just surprised you didn't make the same claims towards the other 2.

Trust me when I say I love the Switch. It's a phenomenal console that's creative, innovative, and just downright enjoyable. If I had to say anything negative about the Switch, it would have been that joy-con drift issue. Which is being taken care of. So I don't have anything against Switch. Again, I was just wondering why you chose the strongest hardware (at the time)out of the 3 for hardware limitations and didn't list it for the other 2. It was just baffling for me. Your preference is your preference. I'll never argue why you like a console better than another. That's not why I replied to you.

I do agree with you about the pricing of the PS3. I don't see it as a negative because they had other models down the line that had a much less considerable price. However, I understand that there are few who have been turned off completely by that price and decided not to touch the PS3 at all. So maybe some of those same folks are here. Same situation with the Xbox One. Pricing and forced Kinect bundling. Although there are other models with a much reduced price and no Kinect...some gamers just got turned off from that.

Anyway, please don't take my reply to you as to questioning your preference. I was just curious about the hardware view for one, but not all of them. Also I was wondering about the remaster thing when the other 2 consoles have just as many. That's the whole gist of "no different than Xbox One and Switch" bit. Hope that clears it up.

I have no idea why you're defending a lie.  The PS4, like the Xbox One, does sub-1080p gaming, and dropping frames.  Just because you dont notice it, doesn't mean it's not happening.  I have both a PS4, and a PS4 Pro, and I also have a PC.  I have games across all three.  I notice pretty easily when there's frame dropping.

And here's a list of PS4 games that are sub-1080.  Most are actually 900p, and all it took was a quick google search.  Thanks, IGN.

Ark: Survival Evolved = 680p/Detailed Graphics runs at 1280x720p (TAA)
Assassin's Creed: Syndicate = 1600x900p (FXAA)
Assassin's Creed: Unity = 1600x900p (FXAA)
Battlefield 1 = Conquest ran between 1100x620p and 1807x1014, campaign runs between 1422x795 and 1807x1016; DICE did note that they adjusted the resolution scaler, so the lowest pixel count could be a lot higher, but I have yet to look (TAA)
Battlefield 4 = 1600x900p (FXAA)
Battlefield: Hardline = 1600x900p (FXAA)
Batman: Return to Arkham = 1344x1080p up to 1920x1080p (FXAA)
Batman: The Telltale Series = 1600x900p in a 2.40:1 aspect ratio (no AA)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III = 1360x1080p up to 1920x1080p/split screen runs between 1080x1080p up to 1536x1080p (Filmic SMAA T2x)
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare = 960x1080p up to 1920x1080p (Filmic SMAA T2x, appears to be a temporal technique used that improves the resolution over time for parts of the frame that are similar to previous frames)
EA Sports MMA = 1600x900p (4x MSAA)
Final Fantasy XV = 1600x900p up to 1920x1080p (TAA)
Lichdom: Battlemage = 1600x900p (Post-AA)
Paragon = 1600x900p (TAA)
Nier: Automata = 1600x900p (no AA)
Nioh = 1280x720, occasional spikes up to 1600x900p and 1728x972p (no AA)
Shadow of the Beast = 1600x900p (post-AA? Not sure as I don't plan on getting it.)
Star Wars: Battlefront = 1600x900p (FXAA)
Uncharted 4 multiplayer = 1600x900p (TAA)
Wash_Dawgs = 1600x900p (SMAA T2x)
The Witness = 1600x900p (2x MSAA)
Titanfall 2 = 1280x720p

About the PS3s costs.  What really costs more?  Do you know how many people I knew that went out and paid for multiple xbox 360s with their own money?...  It was foolish.  I had 1 PS3 from 2009, until like 4 months ago.  No, it didn't break.  I still have it.  I bought a SECOND one for the backwards compatibility, since my original didn't have PS2 backwards compatibility.

And, about the Switch, it's meant to be portable.  How can you knock it for power when having more power would mean it wouldn't have been a portable console.  You're getting something out of it.  With the PS4, it's just... weak, and a one-trick-pony on top of it all.  It can't play PS1 games, for some odd reason.  Every version of playstation except PS4s can play PS1 games.  PS3 games are understandable, but it's just odd that the PS4 can't do much of anything else.  The PS3 has more features that the PS4, but PS4 has better graphics.

Again...the machine runs MOST games at 1080p. Sir that's not a lie. I didn't say every game. Most games. So you making a list of games it doesn't was a wasted effort because I've already acknowledged that the PS4 doesn't run every single game at 1080p.

Now you're debating semantics about the Switch. I told you I don't have a problem with the Switch at all. I love it! However, the Switch is a console as well. Not just a handheld. So no it's still counted as a console like the PS4 and Xbox One. Let's not go trying to save it from criticism from a criteria (hardware power) you yourself have criticized the PS4 for. You said the PS4 is weak hardware wise. I said that the same criticisms should also go to the Xbox One and Switch. That's fair. You chose the strongest hardware of the 3 and said it was weak, but didn't extend that to the other 2. Now whatever you personally feel about the PS4 is your business. I'm talking about your claims about it being a PS3.5 and a one-trick-pony and all that jazz. I'm focusing more about the hardware claim against the other 2. The Switch doesn't get left out of the power discussion if you say the PS4 is weak. That's only fair. It would be the same as you saying the PS3 is weak and only puts out sub 720, but you don't say the same for the Wii. Having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware is. Otherwise the PS4 would mirror the Xbox One fully.

Last edited by Rafie - on 10 August 2019