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irstupid on 06 August 2019
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pokoko said:
Ganoncrotch said:

So you're telling me, honestly and seriously, that you do not understand that if an average of 12 deaths per 100k is spread over all the states that sounds terrible, but if you are telling me that it is so vast and there are regions where there are 0 deaths per 100k, that must mean that there is another region where the deaths are 24 per 100k, which is the worst, in the world in terms of gun violence by a long shot.

Btw starting a post with "you're telling me" and then typing a pile of rubbish that wasn't in my post is such amateur hour arguing tactics, keep your words in your own mouth, I do not like them in mine.

Also at your bolded text.... Takes how long to open Google?

"Europe covers about 10,180,000 square kilometres (3,930,000 sq mi)"

"At 3.8 million square miles (9.8 million km2), the United States"

But hey, what do the numbers matter when you want to question someones ability to understand something.

Or were you maybe referring to the European Union? Rather than the continent of Europe? Because those are two different things... but of course you would know that right?

This is what you said, "I was to move from here to the USA my chances of dying to a gun increase nearly 15x, sorry if that fact based on numbers upsets you living in the states, but you are 15 times more likely than me to die to a gun."  I'm posting it again so you can't pretend you didn't say it.  

So I get this straight, you think if you move to New Hampshire, at state with a homicide rate of 1 per 100,000 people, that it would be the same as moving to Louisiana, a state with a 12.4 homicide rate?  I mean, you look at those two states and you cannot see the difference?  

No, I'm not 15 times more likely to die to a gun than you.  First, I don't live anywhere near a poor metropolitan area, which is where most gun violence occurs.  Second, most gun deaths in the United States are suicides, which doesn't apply to me.  Pretending that simply moving to the US means you'll have the same risks of getting shot no matter where you go or what circumstances you place yourself in is just silly.  People who use statistics while willfully ignoring context are usually just trying to pound home an agenda.

And, yeah, I was wrong about the size comparison, I thought the US was larger with the addition of Alaska.  You want to be an asshole about it with more "takes how long to open Google" comments then feel free.  

I always hate people from other countries telling us how dangerous it is to live in the US.

This isn't like I need to stay away from a dangerous neighborhood. For most Americans, it's you need to not drive 5 hours straight to get to just the city, then go out of your way to find the dangerous part that you would have zero reason to go to as everything you would want in the city would be available somewhere else. 

That is where 99% of all gun related deaths, not counting suicides happen. Like .001% of the entire US is a no go zone. One would have to make it their goal to be in those areas, to ever be in those areas. And it's not like you are surprised. You would happily take your baby out on a walk in the stroller in the rest of the 99.999% of the US, and know damn well that you don't even want to drive your car as fast as you can through those .001% areas.