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Nautilus on 03 August 2019
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EricFabian said:
CGI-Quality said:

Doesn't matter. You can always educate someone who is false/wrong or has presented information that is. I see with this post you've attempted that, but in the future, let it be your first course of action (or report it for misinformation), instead of memes/vids/drive-by posts that don't help a thread along.

@OP: Should the topic contain false info to push a narrative, I advise some corrections (or we'll have to lock and perhaps moderate) to avoid this very situation. Again, that's if.

There is nothing false or wrong in the OP. Everything Nautilus posted was about economy, he didn't debunk a single OP's point

Wasnt willing to go through every single point of his, because thats alot of work, but I am already involved in this madness, so here we go:

Side note: Most of the points I will adress dosent indicate no dictatorship, nazism or whatever.Its just that Bolsonaro is very sincere and direct with his opinion.The concept of political correctness for him is basically dead, which is completely correct.

Part 1: Why!?

These are not laws, but stupid actions for a president.

  • Bolsonaro tweeted a video of people engaging in a "golden shower" in the Brazilian Carnaval. That's: a violation of Twitter's rules; a violation of Brazilian law (exposing someone publically without consent, not how a president should behave); discouraging tourism because of an isolated incident; and pretty weird for a radical christian.

He posted a video of someon peeing during the carnical, on top of a cvar visible to anyone(if im not mistaken) in a show that had no age restriction, that was meant for all ages.He was just pointing out how absurd that is, which I agree.

Common term for whoever lives in Rio de Janeiro.May be an oversight by his part, but nothing serious or anything.

*facepalm*.No he dosent defend child labor in the sense you are putting.He defends the right for a tennager to work and earn money, as long as it dosent get in the way of his education.Think of a family that is having trouble keeping up with the stuff it needs to pay, so that their son can help working 4 hours(give or take), after school, in a local grocery shop.Thats it.Here is what he said on the topic:

https://jovempan.uol.com.br/noticias/brasil/apos-live-polemica-bolsonaro-diz-que-nao-defende-trabalho-infantil.html

Im not too much informed on this, but I believe he refers to Brazil having too much regulations which serves for nothing.But I might be wrong on this one.

And what he said its true.He just framed it wrongly.People like to exagerate that a good number of people in Brazil basically starves to death, and thats simply not true.Yes, some live in extreme proverty, and thats something that needs to be fixed, but its not as big as some publications makes it seem to be.And thats just what he meant.Its just that his first declaration on this topic was unfortunate.

  • Bolsonaro said "the environmental questions are only important to vegetarians."

Dont remember he saying this.While I also think that this phrase was probably take out of context, I wont comment further on this.

Part 2: Wait, were you actually serious when you said that?

Yeah, turns out Bolsonaro is exactly what he said he was, but no one believed him.

I dont agree on the child safety seat part(Hey, I approve him, dosent mean I will agree with 100% of what he says), but about the second part, Im 100% behind it.For who dosent live in the country, you guys need to understand that the transit violations in Brazil is almost a mafia, to the point that speed cameras are hid, so that they can catch you on roads that should have higher speed limits in order to get money from you.And infringing the speed limit 3 or 4 times in a year(Something like being 58 km per hour on a 50 km per hour street) will revoke your driver license.Its stupid.And brazillians know that.

Not aware of this one, but probably something taken out of context.But Im happy to be proven wrong.

  • The Minister of Foreign Affairs also agreed with countries such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Egypt when it came to sex education, violence against women and forced marriage.

In what points?Would be nice to have a reference of some sort, or even links to those claims.

  • The Minister of Foreign Affairs said that global warming is not real because it was cold in Italy when he visited Rome.

Again, source.But assuming its true, yeah thats stupid.Still, dosent point to dictatorship in the slightest.

Yes, because it was pointless to have a dozen different Minitries for the same topic.He just concentrated them.Labor and emplyment is still extremely important(see previous post for sources on that), Bolsonaro is just being efficient by putting it inside the Ministry of Economy, which is already giving results.

Part 3: N is for nepotism!

Remember when Bolsonaro said corruption was over? Yeah, no.

  • Bolsonaro's son, Eduardo, was nominated to work as the Brazilian ambassador in Washington DC. Eduardo has no degree or international experience to warrant him this. He justified his decision saying that Eduardo has "flipped burgers in Maine". Here's a video of Eduardo speaking English.

This topic is delicate.Outside of the timing(which is stupid, given the reform he is trying to pass), I agree that his son would receive a better treatment and thus get things approved more quickly, than a random diplomat.Now people also have a point that his english skills suck.So Im neutral on this one, but honestly, since his approval needs to pass through the senate, dont strike me as nepotism.But thats me.

  • You can see a day-by-day report of the nepotism and corruption that has happened in his government since the start of his term here.

This "article" is the definition of misinformation.This right here is full of old information(that was proven to be either fake or exagerated), of suspicions based on nothing, or just lies.For example, giving job to relatives of bolsonaro(cousins, uncles or otherwise) is not a problem by itself as long as they are competent.I dont think there was a single proof of actual nepotism that was brought foward, other than those "coincidences".Especially on a family with a history on politic(Both sons of Bolsonaro are deputies that were eleged).

Part 4: Oh, boy, this smells of fascism!

God no lol.He wants to close ANCINE yes, but because its a waste of money.Firstly, most movies produced with the money of ANCINE arent profitable(and honestly, they suck.Yes yes, personal opinion).But secondly, and most important, the government is broken.If they dont even have money for their public universities, why will they keep paying for films that dont even turn a profit?

https://jovempan.uol.com.br/noticias/brasil/bolsonaro-confirma-que-quer-acabar-com-a-ancine-poder-publico-nao-tem-que-se-meter-a-fazer-filme.html

  • After getting the data collected by INPE (National Institute for Space Research) and other foreign agencies regarding the deforestation of the Amazon Rainforest, showing results he "felt were not the truth", Bolsonaro fired the director of the Institute.

Yes, because the data was indeed incorrect.And it was using an outdated system.Here is the proof:(The relevant part starts at roughly 13:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubAJbocbnk

Dont know enough about this subject, so I wont comment.But if true, it should be reprimended(again, dont agree with 100% he does)

  • Bolsonaro threatened Glenn Greenwald, a journalist who published text messages between a few politicians, including the current Minister of Justice, that could demoralize an anti-corruption operation that impeached the former president, of going to jail. When another journalist asked Bolsonaro's spokesman what crime Greenwald committed, he was not able to give an answer.

Its still under investigation, but Gleen Greenwald adquired the messages through hackers, which illegally obtained the information.I mean, he is compromising the government, and even if what he shown actually proved that Sergio Moro was a great judge and that he did everything by the book, it was still alarming that governmental infromation was leaking like that.So yeah, even I would be pissed.But Bolsonaro didnt censor him or anything.So I dont see the dictatorship part in here.

  • Miriam Leitão, a journalist, was tortured during the military dictatorship when she was 19 and pregnant. Bolsonaro said that she was a liar and justified her imprisonment because she was part of a guerrilla group. Leitão has never been a part of a guerrilla group.

Wont comment, simply because I dont know much about this one, but just to leave out here:Many of the people that claimed they were fighting the military dictatorship were actually criminals that robbed banks and killed people.So yeah, just leaving this out here.

He made a mistake, I dont understand how this is normalizing nazism.For all the horrible things the nazists did, they have done a great number of medical breakthrough.They used horrible methods yes, but they still did contribute to medicine.Just stating facts, not trying to normalize nazism.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1