Cerebralbore101 said:
TheMisterManGuy said:
IS is technically independent from Nintendo actually. They aren't listed as a subsidiary on the company's press sites. If you want a more recent example, Astral Chain. The copyright notice is "©2019 Nintendo/Platinum Games, Inc."
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Platinum Games owns the Astral Chain IP. Nintendo just publishes it. So it is not a co-owned IP. The copyright goes to both of them because Nintendo is the publisher. It is not the same as Nintendo owning the IP.
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mjk45 said:
TheMisterManGuy said:
If Nintendo's name is in the copyright notice alongside Platinum's, then Nintendo owns half the IP. Meaning they have a say on what they can do with it. Astral Chain is owned by both Platinum and Nintendo.
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It doesn't mean that Platinum can't put Astral Chain 2 or something similar on another console,quite often they are game specific and used to safeguard the publishers investment in an IP they don't own.
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SpokenTruth said:
TheMisterManGuy said:
If Nintendo's name is in the copyright notice alongside Platinum's, then Nintendo owns half the IP. Meaning they have a say on what they can do with it. Astral Chain is owned by both Platinum and Nintendo.
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You are not wholly incorrect in your assumption as that is more often than not the actual case. But IP ownership isn't as simple as a copyright. It can be timed, it can be name only, it can be for marketing/production/distribution purposes, etc...
We would have to ask either party how ownership is set up. The specifics would be in the contracts.
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Bofferbrauer2 said:
TheMisterManGuy said:
If Nintendo's name is in the copyright notice alongside Platinum's, then Nintendo owns half the IP. Meaning they have a say on what they can do with it. Astral Chain is owned by both Platinum and Nintendo.
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Yeah, it means Nintendo has the publishing rights. As in, they can decide where the game comes out, where and when it gets released. But that doesn't mean they own the IP.
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twintail said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Actually, I'm pretty sure the OP is right when he says that Astral Chain is at least a partially owned Nintendo IP.
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I think most ppl agree the IP ownership is theirs. OP is saying that Nintendo lets devs co-own the IP, which is not only not established yet, but neither is it something only they do.
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Mnementh said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Actually, I'm pretty sure the OP is right when he says that Astral Chain is at least a partially owned Nintendo IP. Nintendo released a schedule of first party releases that included Astral Chain. And since first party titles are really decided by IP ownership and not the development studio (hence Yoshi's Crafted World, Mario Tennis Aces and the like being first party), it makes sense to believe Nintendo do at least own some of the Astral Chain IP. This is similar to The Wonderful 101 being Nintendo owned.
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I am sure that is the case, still it is nothing related to Nintendo. Look, NamcoBandai publishes the Souls-series, but they don't have full control without From Software (and Sony in case of Demon's Soul).
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@twintail @Mnementh
I'm not saying that the original statement of the thread was correct, hence why I didn't mention that. I'm also not saying that partially owning an IP is something only Nintendo does. I was just clarifying that Nintendo do at least partially own the IP, because as you can see from above your posts, there was a lot of confusion around that topic.
