What are your thoughts on CTR Nitro Fueled?

[Chazore]

konnichiwa said:

Chazore said:

Some people like using cheat codes, and there's nothing wrong with that in an SP game, or a game, where both parties agree to using a handicap method. If you don't want to input a cheat, that's fine, but I'd love for there to be an option to, rather than none at all, or turning it into a paid thing, because it was once regarded as something free, that was just a part of the game itself.

I wouldn't assume that no one on this earth would want everything within a given product, that's a bit short sighted imo. I want the option to change skins in a game, and there are a good number of old games that allowed for that. These days it's either an MT or a heavy grind, that could also involve a MT, to make said grind "go away", but that's not really a good idea, because then you're slapping in artificial grinding, just to make the MT look ideal, and to me, that's flawed logic, because you're effectively creating an issue out of thin air, in order to make more money.

Yeah, Startcraft added quite some stuff after the first, second and final expansion, but do you want to know how much that cost for a few years?, around £200+, for an RTS of all games, and no, that's not "well worth the value", that's treading into Train sim territory, and no, as an RTS fan, I don't want a £200+ RTS game. I want a £40 RTS game, with non community splitting maps (because it is a fact that map packs have split communities in various genres before, hence the change in how the maps are dolled out these days).

See, this model you describe, suits perfectly to a F2P game, not a £40-60 game.

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with that logic that it's fine to charge and gouge more and more. I'm not a corporate person, who loves to see a business making billions each year, primarily because 1), I'm not running the company, and 2) I'm not basking in that wealth, and have little interest, because gaming is ultimately a luxury, not a cure for cancer, which I'd be most interested in supporting and showing undying love for.

First of all their are cheats in CTR but except Pinguin they disable achievements/trophies.
Their are +120 skins in the game that don't need the pitstop/wumpa coins in the initial package.

Reviews were for the initial package, their is no review that reviewed the +25 characters coming from the grandprix/6 tracks/20 extra karts/50extra skins, etc...

We have racing games that add 100 dollars in DLC/Fighter games that add season passes for characters and skins/free to play games that added thousands of dollars of skins. 

Their are a lot kids who probably don't get the season pass for smash from their parents or season pass for spiderman, Smash sold 15 million and was full priced so could Nintendo not just release those characters for free? Where is the outrage? Beenox could have easily added a season pass to this game for 20$ and it would have been a fair price but those kids probably again could not get it. Beenox didn't and let everyone have the option to earn it and that's great!   I get that people don't like microtransacations but acting like this game is one of the most offensive ones is silly.

And that's fine if they allow cheats and disable trophies. At least they aren't charging for them, because if they were, that would be looked down upon.

Skins that don't require any other currency, and are unlocked purely in the old fashioned way, without needing an MT to inject with a purchase is also fine. We have skins on heroes of the storm, that are not bought with gems, but are instead forged via a collection of shards, which cannot be bought with any sort of MT. 

I don't think game reviewers make a living in terms of reviewing skins, unless you're PCG, who love gossiping non stop about Fortnite skins. If it were released as a free or paid expansion, like MHW will be doing, then I would expect that to get a review.

I am aware, and they are also insanely costly, if you want the whole package. That doesn't mean to say "pay what you want" is the best model given to man, and how all games should be going forward, because that just isn't it, not for the entire industry, not for all consumers either. 

Yes, there are kids who won't be getting the whole pass, but there are adults and other kids that can, have and will.

Making a full priced game and releasing characters for free, with no MT's or strings attached is great, and I applaud that model, because it's pro-consumer. Adding in MT's and introducing what will always become an artificial grind, because without MT's, you don't need that artificial grind to begin with, but beyond that, just adding them in isn't pro-consumer, because the previous model was free and was already pro-consumer, before MT's arrived. Trying to say "paid for">literally free is foolhardy to suggest.

I find it silly to allow it to spread, because if you're to forgive it now, you allow my experiences to deteriorate and for little room to right back, because it's labeled user "silly", so your way would in turn over time, override mine and then it's basically you telling me, via your forgiveness on how I should game, and I frankly find that a direct obstacle to my way of gaming.

The very last thing I want, is a group who are tolerant to predatory practices, paving the way for others to be forced out of a hobby they like, simply because the other party refuses to understand, let alone respect the other's wishes, and that's where this sort of topic lands us.

You want options?, free is a very fine and far better start, than paying each and every time, or facing an artificial grind.