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Chazore said:
konnichiwa said:

Yes we did, I remember in Tekken 3 beating arcade mode with XiaoYu 50 times to unlock her last costume and bonus stage. Probably were cheats but unlocking everything with a cheat felt sad.   Also you don't need everything their is really no purpose to grind for something that you will never use it is all optional.  So many games add stuff after a paywall, want extra fighters pay up, want extra cars pay up, want more adventure dlc pay up , want a costume pay up.  This game is basically more you play more you will get and that's totally fine, some will never reach prestige levels in fps games, some will never finish a RPG because they are to long but that's life :s.

Some people like using cheat codes, and there's nothing wrong with that in an SP game, or a game, where both parties agree to using a handicap method. If you don't want to input a cheat, that's fine, but I'd love for there to be an option to, rather than none at all, or turning it into a paid thing, because it was once regarded as something free, that was just a part of the game itself.

I wouldn't assume that no one on this earth would want everything within a given product, that's a bit short sighted imo. I want the option to change skins in a game, and there are a good number of old games that allowed for that. These days it's either an MT or a heavy grind, that could also involve a MT, to make said grind "go away", but that's not really a good idea, because then you're slapping in artificial grinding, just to make the MT look ideal, and to me, that's flawed logic, because you're effectively creating an issue out of thin air, in order to make more money.

Yeah, Startcraft added quite some stuff after the first, second and final expansion, but do you want to know how much that cost for a few years?, around £200+, for an RTS of all games, and no, that's not "well worth the value", that's treading into Train sim territory, and no, as an RTS fan, I don't want a £200+ RTS game. I want a £40 RTS game, with non community splitting maps (because it is a fact that map packs have split communities in various genres before, hence the change in how the maps are dolled out these days).

See, this model you describe, suits perfectly to a F2P game, not a £40-60 game.

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with that logic that it's fine to charge and gouge more and more. I'm not a corporate person, who loves to see a business making billions each year, primarily because 1), I'm not running the company, and 2) I'm not basking in that wealth, and have little interest, because gaming is ultimately a luxury, not a cure for cancer, which I'd be most interested in supporting and showing undying love for.

First of all their are cheats in CTR but except Pinguin they disable achievements/trophies.
Their are +120 skins in the game that don't need the pitstop/wumpa coins in the initial package.

Reviews were for the initial package, their is no review that reviewed the +25 characters coming from the grandprix/6 tracks/20 extra karts/50extra skins, etc...

We have racing games that add 100 dollars in DLC/Fighter games that add season passes for characters and skins/free to play games that added thousands of dollars of skins. 

Their are a lot kids who probably don't get the season pass for smash from their parents or season pass for spiderman, Smash sold 15 million and was full priced so could Nintendo not just release those characters for free? Where is the outrage? Beenox could have easily added a season pass to this game for 20$ and it would have been a fair price but those kids probably again could not get it. Beenox didn't and let everyone have the option to earn it and that's great!   I get that people don't like microtransacations but acting like this game is one of the most offensive ones is silly.