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LudicrousSpeed said:
thismeintiel said:

Nope. Dreamcast sold below expectations and was discontinued when new management came in and decided to go 3rd party. In the 2 1/2 years it was available, 1 1/2 years globally, it didn't even hit 9.2M, and sales were slowing at the end, not picking up. The Dreamcast was also made with off the shelf parts to reduce costs.

No, I don't like it because it's a very poor example. One I wouldn't think you would even think to use.  We are comparing consoles competing with each other, not ones competing with themselves. Especially when the upgraded version came out 3 years after the launch of the OG model, which was already approaching 50M units sold. Like I said, the Pro had a MUCH smaller market to sell to. Now, if they had launched at the same time, maybe you would have a point. But as is, is just reaching for straws. 

There are still hundreds of games not launching on XBO. That makes a difference with plenty of gamers. And even being equal in power and price will probably still favor the PS5. People who bought a PS4 will most likely be sticking with it because of B/C and the good will they have with PS4. MS, on the other hand, has proven again that they will ditch their current audience, instead going with "please be excited for next gen."

Games like what, Sheppu Mengitis Teppen X? People make a big deal about games like this but then you look at software sales and those games don’t actually mean shit to a vast majority of people.

Also what is this “ditch their current audience again” stuff? They continued to release 360 games after Xbone. Hell they’re launching that next gen you mentioned with a Halo game... or their current audience can just play it on their Xbone. They have GamePass which will continue to support titles from all of their consoles, and xCloud which will let their current audience play those next gen games without even needing the new console. All that stuff you listed for Sony like good will and BC, Microsoft already has.

I know you like to poop on MS and constantly predict their retreat from the market but at least keep it based in reality, friend.

I'd say HW sales paint a different picture. Sure, one title probably doesn't make a difference, but add up all the ones not showing up on XBO that are on PS4 and it starts to make a difference. Then you have all the games showing up on PS4 first, not all of them because of deals, that tip the scales greatly in PS's favor.

A lot of their 360 died after XBO launch, unless you count Kinect games. Scarlett isn't even out and releases have already started drying up. Like MS, I'm sure you'll count a cross-gen title and having xCloud on XBO as great after launch support.

And as I've said before, stop representing what I have said just to f make a feeble attempt at a dig. Didn't say they'd leave the gaming market, just the HW market.