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the-pi-guy said:
Snoopy said:

Yes, I have proof that less government involvement in Lasik eye surgery has seen a huge decrease in costs. Here is an article with a nice video from Bob McEwen explaining how the government isn't the answer.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/18671/prageru-video-government-cant-fix-health-care-aaron-bandler

This doesn't just apply to health care, pretty much any industry with less government control seen a decrease in price.

PragerU....  

Firstly, the video still doesn't explain anything about Lasik.  It's basically just repeating exactly what you said earlier that "Government intervention decline led to a decline in cost."  Does not giving any examples of how some random government intervention with Lasik declined.  

Regardless of that, again, Lasik doesn't work the way the rest of healthcare works for a very important reason that has absolutely nothing to do with anything with government.  With eye surgery, you have the option to shop around.  With healthcare, you usually don't.  

You might think that the video is extremely logical, but just because something sounds logical doesn't mean that's how it works in practice.  

There are dozens of countries that are evidence that government can do a good job with healthcare, and the evidence against it is Lasik which is elective...  

Snoopy said:

The free market and giving the power to the states instead of the federal government will correct problems such as emergency care and those who don't have time to shop. For example, the states can make companies that take care of cardiac problems bid against each other each year and whoever offers the lowest price while being able to do their jobs will win and only they can do the treatment. Thus creating competition and working for our hard-earned money. We can also choose which states to live in so this will incentivize the state government to do what it takes to give us the best offer. If more people leave the state, the less money the state government will make because of less tax revenue/business income.

What you're saying would lead to only one company being able to do their job.  That's the opposite of competition.  

The way competition works on the corporate side is that different companies are able to make a product.  They make money, they build up expertise.  They come up with better and/or cheaper ways to do things.  

If only one company is allowed to do their job, other companies have no incentive to build up expertise. 

Snoopy said:

Private insurance can act the same way, they can make deals with your local hospitals and see what they can do to lower the cost of care and fight for our money (which in some cases they do already). Insurance, as you may know, manages a pool of money and the insurance companies will do what it takes to lower the cost of these treatments as well so they don't have to give up a huge amount of money.

That's literally what they do right now.

A big reason why healthcare costs more in the US is because hospitals have huge administration costs.  They have to have massive numbers of people to work with different insurance companies, handle billing, etc.  

Snoopy said:

Not to mention removing government stupid ass regulations will lower the cost of these hospitals almost instantly. The strict requirements to be a doctor or the control over medicine and basically closing all competition is what helped spiked these costs in the first place.

Most of those strict requirements are important.  They prevent abuses, and otherwise keep quality high.

Snoopy said:

1. If you are on minimum wage permanently or a good chunk of your life, chances are it is your fault because you didn't get the skills necessary to make more money. Also, you don't have to go to college to make a decent amount of money. I have many family members who make 70k+ and don't have a degree but have the experience and skills to do their job.

2. A lot of people who are on welfare are abusing it, there is a reason why there is a huge chunk of people not included in the employment rate because they refuse to work.  However, over time they realize they haven't achieved anything and sometimes resort to criminal activities to make more money which lands them in jail. Which shows yet again, it is a trap.

1.  

Sure.  A lot become mothers, and aren't able to do a job and schooling, they should definitely be punished for that.  

It's also unthinkable that someone could lose a good paying job, and getting stuck with hardly anything to take of their family.  

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>there is a reason why there is a huge chunk of people not included in the employment rate because

And how many people could otherwise work, but are preferring to take welfare? 

>over time they realize they haven't achieved anything and sometimes resort to criminal activities to make more money which lands them in jail

So you think people get disappointed they aren't doing anything with their lives, that they decide to turn to crime?  How does that make any sense?

Here is more proof regarding the LASIK eye surgery.

https://www.lp.org/epipen-lasik-reveal-healthcare/

The government showed they do a terrible job with health care because even it is free, they have to pay for it another way. No such thing as a free lunch. Here is another video showing government control health care results in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

Apparently, you didn't see the part about companies bidding. Multiple companies fighting for your hard-earned money. Not to mention the next year they can change the company that handles the service if the state isn't happy with the cost or service in my example.

And again, the reason why hospitals cost more is that the government has way too many regulations in place that even a lot of doctors spoke out against in the past. These regulations also limit the supply of medical professionals to take care of us. Not to mention limits the drugs and medical devices we can use.

My mom was able to work even though she had three kids while my dad worked out of state. Also, if the best you can do is a minimum wage job, perhaps you shouldn't be a father or mother until you get some kind of education/skill first so you can support your kids. So yeah, it is their fault if that's the scenario. If you lose your job but have the skills and experience you should be able to land on your feet. Earning minimum wage is okay if temporarily, but if that is all you earn for a huge chunk of your life, then you are doing something obviously wrong. Unless you are treating it as side money or something of that sort.