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the-pi-guy said:
Snoopy said:

Look at Lasik eye surgery and how much cheaper it got when the government-backed off. Also, bringing up lobbyist is exactly proving my point that the federal government will screw the American people for money. So thank you for making my point again. That is why we shouldn't give them more power other than protecting us. 

1.)  Do you have proof that the government involvement in LASIK has declined?

2.)  Lasik isn't proof of anything, because it's an elective procedure.  When you want to get your eyes fixed, you can call around.  Most insurance companies don't cover lasik, so if you are getting lasik, you probably have the money to drive to a hospital that's further away.  When you have a heart attack, your first option isn't to call around and see which hospital is cheapest.  

Capitalism only works at lowering prices when you have the option to say "no, I can't or won't pay that price."  Most of healthcare doesn't give you that option.

Snoopy said:

Minimum wage is for people who put in minimum effort, thus get what they deserve. Raising the minimum wage will increase our cost of living and force automation to replace their job. We have a low unemployment rate and we want to keep it that way, unlike Australia. We have a lot of homeless in mostly liberal areas that have a lot more government control, go figure.

>Minimum wage is for people who put in minimum effort, thus get what they deserve.

1.)  Because life and the world is absolutely fair, and if someone is working a minimum wage job, it's definitely their own fault.  Is that right?  

2.)  Because what people deserve is exactly equal to their effort.  That's why CEO's who simply make decisions, are worth 10,000 times more than someone who works in a hot kitchen.  Sounds fair?

3.)  Because people should always get what they deserve, not what makes the world a better place. Sounds good?  

>We have a low unemployment rate and we want to keep it that way, unlike Australia. 

Australia has a low unemployment rate as well.  

https://www.ft.com/content/9a612758-a8fa-11e9-984c-fac8325aaa04

>We have a lot of homeless in mostly liberal areas that have a lot more government control, go figure.

That's largely due to Liberal NIMBYism, not because of some arbitrary measure of government control.  

And again, you keep throwing around "government control" with no concern of policy.  As if government exists on a one dimensional line.  Government isn't that simple.  There's practically an infinite number of policy possibilities, some work better than others.

Snoopy said:

Welfare is a trap because it incentivizes a lot of people to not work and live a depressing life knowing they aren't contributing to society. Also, a lot of welfare recipients end up resorting to criminal activities to make even more money and end up in jail.

>Welfare is a trap because it incentivizes a lot of people to not work

A lot of welfare programs have job requirements and/or limits for how long you can have them.  Not exactly incentive to not work.  Quite the opposite.

> live a depressing life knowing they aren't contributing to society

This goes against your previous point.  I know a lot of people that actively avoid welfare because they don't want a hand out.  I doubt most people want welfare.  but it's something that's necessary because the world isn't perfect.  Sometimes people lose their jobs at no fault of their own.  Sometimes people don't get a job at no fault of their own.  Sometimes people have a low paying job through no fault of their own.  

Before welfare was a thing, a lot of those people would have died.  Or more likely turned to crime to try feeding themselves and their family.  

Yes, I have proof that less government involvement in Lasik eye surgery has seen a huge decrease in costs. Here is an article with a nice video from Bob McEwen explaining how the government isn't the answer.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/18671/prageru-video-government-cant-fix-health-care-aaron-bandler

This doesn't just apply to health care, pretty much any industry with less government control seen a decrease in price.

The free market and giving the power to the states instead of the federal government will correct problems such as emergency care and those who don't have time to shop. For example, the states can make companies that take care of cardiac problems bid against each other each year and whoever offers the lowest price while being able to do their jobs will win and only they can do the treatment. Thus creating competition and working for our hard-earned money. We can also choose which states to live in so this will incentivize the state government to do what it takes to give us the best offer. If more people leave the state, the less money the state government will make because of less tax revenue/business income.

Private insurance can act the same way, they can make deals with your local hospitals and see what they can do to lower the cost of care and fight for our money (which in some cases they do already). Insurance, as you may know, manages a pool of money and the insurance companies will do what it takes to lower the cost of these treatments as well so they don't have to give up a huge amount of money.

Not to mention removing government stupid ass regulations will lower the cost of these hospitals almost instantly. The strict requirements to be a doctor or the control over medicine and basically closing all competition is what helped spiked these costs in the first place.

1. If you are on minimum wage permanently or a good chunk of your life, chances are it is your fault because you didn't get the skills necessary to make more money. Also, you don't have to go to college to make a decent amount of money. I have many family members who make 70k+ and don't have a degree but have the experience and skills to do their job.

2. A lot of people who are on welfare are abusing it, there is a reason why there is a huge chunk of people not included in the employment rate because they refuse to work.  However, over time they realize they haven't achieved anything and sometimes resort to criminal activities to make more money which lands them in jail. Which shows yet again, it is a trap.