Pemalite said:
Snoopy said:
Other countries health care isn't all sunshine and rainbows. If you look at their taxes and the price for basic commodities, you will see they are hurting elsewhere that can also hinder their well being in the first place. Education again went way up in price since anyone can now take a loan and universities have no incentive to lower the price if a student decides to go to college for a useless degree. Also, federal student loans increased significantly which is a form of education spending no matter how you spin it.
Health care isn't a right and neither is the military. Both require money and people who are willing to serve us. Since slavery has been abolished, we shouldn't force others to serve us. The difference is military is something we NEED to protect our "God-given" rights which are pretty much outlined in the bill of rights. Health care at the end of the day is a WANT to improve our lives, not a need. We can have a better health care system if we got the government out of it and it will become much more affordable. The fact our precious government is willing to do deals with big pharmaceutical companies and stop outside competition is an easy example of why we are in this situation in the first place.
I think the combination of the private sector and states/local is the way to go ultimately for health care and not the federal government which has proven to be a failure.
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The tax rate isn't dramatically higher in Australia...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/australians-may-pay-more-taxes-than-americans-but-they-get-more-too.html
USA: $14,115 USD per capita.
AUS: $17,146 USD per capita.
OECD Average: $12,911 USD per capita.
There has also been a slew of tax cuts being passed right now as well, which should bring our tax rate down... I know I will see an extra $1,000.
In saying that... We also tax the poor less... Because there is a moral reason for it.
http://sendmoneyaustralia.com/tax-rates-in-australia-comparison-to-usa-uk/
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Expenditure on Healthcare per GDP:
USA: 17%
AUS: 9.6%
Clearly higher taxes isn't a requirement for a universal healthcare system when it's cheaper.
And for that our hybrid Universal Healthcare system is ranked 2nd in the world according the world health organization... The USA is ranked 11th. - For a nation that could land a man on the moon, why is your healthcare system so crippled?
But we also have higher minimum wages, better welfare, vastly better roads, paid parental leave, less student/education debt.
And on top of that we have less poor because we distribute wealth far more effectively.
There is a reason why there is a "Stagnant working class" in the USA... And it starts from the very top.
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The frustrating part Snoopy is that you aren't willing to look at and recognize what other nations have done right in regards to healthcare... And why they are better the the USA's model... But instead wish to resort to a health system model that the developed world have since abandoned due to it's costs and inefficiencies.
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I guess you missed the part where I do want to change America's health care system but to one of free enterprise instead of giving so much power to the federal government. Which is why it is so messed up in the first place. Competition is what drives us. Also equal doesn't mean justice. If I steal someone's hard-earned money and give it to someone else to equal things out, that isn't justice.
However, Australia is going through a lot of problems right now such as a much higher cost of living, your military is now a joke, your colleges are nowhere near as good as ours and your unemployment rate rising. Also, bragging about welfare is just sad. Welfare is a temporary solution and should never be looked at as a good thing.
