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Mr Puggsly said:

Let me clarify, people who want to play Fable 3 on PC should just steal it or go play it on Xbox.

Or not. Never condone the act of stealing.

Mr Puggsly said:

Those interesting points you make about how better hardware helps development, but its irrelevant.

Not really... It's on topic, besides... You then continued the discussion on this point anyway:

Mr Puggsly said:

If Halo 5 ran at 30 fps, there probably would have been less compromise in the pop in, draw distance of shadows, maybe even the animation frame drops could have stayed 30 fps. I don't think more development time would have fixed the issue of these choices made for a 60 fps game, nothing was really addressed in patches, and nothing was really fixed with the X1X. I'm hoping for some sort of remaster or patches on the Scarlett. That could coincide with the inevitable PC port.

There was an effort to enhance Halo 5 for the Xbox one X... Problem was, it wasn't really that much of an improvement. - There is an improvement sure... But the base assets are still geared towards optimal Xbox One performance and visuals rather than showcasing what the Xbox One X can truly do.

But that is a common theme for most Xbox One X enhanced titles, only a marginal improvement where the bulk of games are just notched a little bit higher in visual settings with the bulk of the hardware pushing higher framerates/resolution rather than pushing more intricate effects that PC gamers get to use.

Mr Puggsly said:

I'm gonna suggest we stop using the word niggle. I loved saying tar baby, but you gotta let these words go in the name of progress.

Nah. I'll continue to use it when I deem it as appropriate.

curl-6 said:

So a big leap then. Thanks, I was curious as while it interests me I'm not an expert on technical stuff.

Absolutely massive, probably the single largest leap in CPU capability in generations. - If there is only one criticism that I can give... Is that Sony/Microsoft doesn't go for more than 1 CCX grouping of cores... (But I had been saying that was the path they would take for years anyway due to cost reasons.)

Would have been nice to have 12-16 CPU cores for platform longevity, we just aren't there yet.

It does mean that the 10th gen consoles aren't likely to see the same kind of leap in CPU capability as well though, so the 9th gen is gearing up to be rather interesting.

HoloDust said:

Do you know where it's possible to do some actual numbers comparison? I only know of Passmark that has massive data base, and there clock for clock, core to core comparison is not very flattering.

Probably a bit difficult to get a Jaguar to Zen2 comparison. - But years ago I did a comparison and calculated that 8x Jaguar cores is roughly equivalent to a dual-core Core i3 at the time, operating at around 3ghz.
So taking any Sandy/Ivy-Bridge Dual Core and pitting it against Zen 2 is as accurate as you are probably going to get it at this stage unless I can source some hardware. (Working on it!)



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