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Azzanation said:

Keep in mind a couple things here and that is Halo 5 is also a heavy digital game which would have reduced its own sale numbers (It still wouldn't have gotten any where near close to its predecessors.) Also from what the internet says is that Halo 5 was the biggest and fastest Halo launch ever.

Great. It is good that you recognize that mathematically that Halo has been in a sales decline.
That doesn't mean Halo: Infinite will continue that trend, that title needs to be judged upon it's own merits.


Azzanation said:

So it might have died off a lot earlier than previous Halo games however it made more money/profits than any other Halo game and more money than any of Sony's 1st party game line up and to what the other Poster is saying that games like Horizon are bigger IPs etc makes me scratch my head. So anyone to say Halo is in decline yet the franchise continues to make more and more money is absurd. Halo is a lot bigger than just video games and it has a much bigger following today than it did before. Halo 5 just didn't have legs and that's because the game did have its fair share of flaws which I 100% agree with you.

I think Halo 4 dive bombed in population faster than Halo 5 though.
Either way... Sales to date, Halo 3 is the pinnacle of the franchise in terms of overall sales.

Games like Horizon and so on... On a franchise level are not as big as Halo, Halo has accumulated a ton more cash... And has allot more "loot" to go with it in general, not to mention has extended into lots of other media... And it simply has more entries.

Azzanation said:

Sure Halo 5 declines only in video game sales but as an IP and franchise, its as big as its ever been and one of the biggest in the industry and will see what Infinite offers. I am sure Infinite will be no exception to the rule.

The IP is still massive, there is no arguing about that. Microsoft's presentation at E3 emphasized that very fact... They have clearly sunk a shit ton of manpower/resources and cash into infinite, that wouldn't happen if the IP was small.

Azzanation said:

Reach should definitely be included as it is a AAA Halo game and a pre-qual. Doesn't need a number to be counted. Reach is no different to any of the numbered mainline games. Reach is also considered by many as one of the best Halo games ever made and it didn't sell as much as Halo 3. But it doesn't have to. If you don't want to include Reach, than you might as well not include Infinite because there is no number.

No. Reach shouldn't be included, it's not a numbered mainline entry.
It's a spin-off title that focused on only the events of Reach and not the chronicles of Master Chief's overall-arching story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(franchise)#Spin-offs

Otherwise we should include: ODST... Otherwise it's goal post shifting in order to suit the argument to your own benefit, which is a logical fallacy.

As for Infinite, it should be the closing of the Reclaimer Saga. Aka. Halo 6. - If that changes, then yes, it should be excluded.



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