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Hiku said:
DonFerrari said:

Pregnancy con is certainly unwanted by the male, that is the reason to con so the guy don't go away (I know a girl that done it twice to ex-boyfriend and he pays allimony but never got back to her).

Nowadays I would say more woman that have active sexual life uses pill and other methods, because often both will be on the desire and if condom isn't there possibly would keep going anyway, so I don't think it would be much more woman that get pregnant due to being forced versus male conned (in developed country). But the balancing I put had nothing to do with the pregnancy con, but between responsabilities on wanting/accepting/etc unprotected sex. For example I could, but won't, give more discount to male being more likely to not be able to brake his sexual instincts due to hormone.

So as I said when not including rape, for me both are equally responsible/guilty for what happened. And if you wish you can include some of the forced sex (because it goes on veiled threat) as rape.

When I said unwanted, I specifically meant unwanted by either party. But that's besides the point, so I edited that part out of my post. What does matter is that the frequency of pregnancy cons is not comparable to the frequency of unprotected sex.

And it's primarily men that pressure women into unprotected sex than the other way around.
Same for pretending to use a condom.
I would not count the manipulator on equal ground with the manipulated, but I digress.

The biggest problem is men's insistence on having unprotected sex during those days, while refusing to get a vasectomy. Which is a safe low risk procedure, that is reversible. And would prevent any unwanted pregnancies completely. While also sparing women from the horrible side effects and risks of birth control.

Again since woman can also have surgery, and certainly can fell if there is a condom or not and likely also see before (very different from making holes and not taking pills), doesn't make sense to again want a bigger burden "because he is a man".

Each one is responsible for own actions. So you can't say the woman got pregnant because the guy didn't do vasecthomy.



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