Why can't Dems presidential hopefuls pull this much people for any of their rallys? <20,000+

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the-pi-guy said:

eva01beserk said:
It has become impossible to have a conversation between the right and the left. I honestly beileve the far left has created this divide. If they don't come to reason we can not meet at the middle. And it's not trump, the left will think its the devil who ever is in leadership if they don't put them there.

@bold.  Nope.  The biggest reason for the divide is because there's a proliferation of media.  50 years ago, there were only a couple of channels, and there were rules that each side had to be represented.  Now with Facebook, there are literally millions of different opinions that can widely be heard by at least dozens of people.  There are also 1000's of channels, politically biased websites, etc.  

@italics.  On the contrary, the "left" has gone to great lengths to meet up in the middle.  Obamacare was based off Republican health care plans, Obama reached out to several Republicans, and even gave them positions in the White House.  To the rest of the world, Democrats are the middle.  In fact, the average Democrats is slightly to the right of the middle.  Republicans on the other hand, are way to the right.  

@underline.  Hardly the case.  The average leftist is very supportive of decent Republicans.  Look at George W. Bush's approval rating.  It was well over 90% at one point, because people on the left were supporting what he did.  Even if in retrospect, they no longer agree, at the time they still thought he was doing right.  

Personally there are only a few Republicans I support less than Trump.  And there were a few, even just in the past presidential election, that I would have gratefully supported if they ended up getting elected.  

eva01beserk said:

Its a middle of the road argument. Does it shock you that somebody can think a little of both is a better option? I know the left belive that if you dont agree with 100% of everything then you must be alt right. But trust me, im in the middle.

Also not the case.

There are some specific issues, that "leftists" will react very strongly to.  Racism and sexism are very big issues for a lot of people.  

But no, you don't have to agree with everything.  People on the left don't even agree with each other.  

How good where the times during obama. To bad that in less than one presidential term thing have changed so dramatically. Even obama called out the left by calling them a circular firing squad. I still remember the ridiculous things obama got accused of and all that other nonsense, but at no point does it compare to the clown show we have now. I honestly believe the left wants war just because trump is oppose to it, it makes no sense at all. So if obama is who you are trying to cling to, remember that obama is also against the way the democrats are behaving now. 

There should never be a topic that makes us irrational to consider it.We are not children...... ok maybe some here are children most likely. But to the adult who will be voting, we always have to at least try to see what the argument is. Every point is up for debate. Or dont you remember a time when black people where inhuman and just trying to something nice would get you in the same trouble and harassment. We cannot close our ears and minds to any argument no matter how horrible they sound at first. again, only children do that, and looking at the news at how COLLEGE!!! students behave when just receiving a little disagreement, that tells me that I should line myself as far away from that party as possible.