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Pinkie_pie on 10 June 2019
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Nuvendil said:
NightlyPoe said:

I was refuting your comment that all he needed was a second all-star and the championships start flowing.  The Bulls, both versions, were more than just two players.  You're the one guilty of an exaggeration, not me.

Also you don't seem to have an idea how hard Jordan was on his teammates.  Or coaches for that matter.  Ask Doug Collins how easy Jordan was to coach.

Speaking of coaches.  Jackson got Jordan to change his game and was the only coach other than Dean Smith that Jordan would play for.  He got a moody Pippen to keep his ego in check from Jordan's shadow.  He kept Rodman from being a complete distraction that derails the whole team (seriously, how many coaches accomplish that?).  He implemented the triangle offense which made Jordan's game a team game.  Oh, and he took a talented but chaotic Lakers team that was about to fall on its face to the championship as soon as he walked through the door.

Dude, I would just give up.  Anyone who blows off Phil freaking Jackson - a coach with a W/L of .704, 13 Finals Appearances,  11 championships, and never, ever led a team to a sub-.500 season - as being just another coach who got lucky is beyond help.  

Not lucky as in winning. He was lucky to take over teams that were on their way up. He took over a bulls team with prime jordan and pippen that made the conference finals with collins. Same with the lakers.