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NightlyPoe said:
Pinkie_pie said:

What 30 game stretch you on about? You know what wins games? Defense, scoring and will to win and thats what jordan was best at. He never melted down at ant point of his career and always pushed his team and exerted his will. And you know why you should build your team around jordan over lebron? Loyalty. He wont cut and run and is willing to stay and build a good team into a great franchise. That doesnt happen by taking your talents wherever you can win championship. You still havent told me any good reason why you would build a team around bird curry or lebron over jordan. 

Jordan didn't just cut and run instead of building a good team.  He simply retired.  I'm going to repeat that:  He quit.  If the Bulls had fallen apart after his first retirement, he would have just stayed retired.  Jordan was only willing to play for a poor team when he was older and no one expected anything of him.  He couldn't take the pressure of not playing when the deck was stacked in his favor.

Compare that to Lebron who has jumped to a basketcase lottery team in twice.  Which one of them is truly the one willing to take up a challenge?

I thought I had said why I'd take those players over Jordan many times.  They are disruptive on offense and not only create opportunities to score for themselves, but they do so in a way that makes it significantly easier for their teammates to score.  Jordan's offense is less dynamic and doesn't raise the overall level of the team.  There's a reason why Jordan's record when he was scoring in the 50s and 60s wasn't all that great.  His teammates stopped playing and just sorta watched him.

30 games is about how many NBA Finals games each has played (a bit more in Lebron's case).

He never quit because his team was bad. He retired because his father was murdered. His team was still the best when he retired because he stayed and built a dynasty. Lebron was the one that quit and ran to join up with wade and bosh because he knew he couldnt win a championship with Cleveland. I cant believe you think jordan 1st retirement is the same as lebron leaving Cleveland to join wade and bosh. Jordan wanted to beat the best. Not join them. Lebron went back to Cleveland because they still had kyrie and the no.1 pick and Lebron knew he could get an all star player for that which was kevin love. Jordan also was a better leader than lebron. When Jr smith had brain fade at the end of game 1, lebron didnt encourage his team instead he was sitting on the bench in silence and feeding the discouragement. Jordan not only won all of his finals series , (the 30 games you mentioned) his home and away record is still far better than curry and lebron. Build a team around jordan with a single all star and you start winning championship after championship and thats why its easier to win championship if you build a team around jordan because he only needs 1 all star. Bird, curry and lebron had multiple all stars but could only win 3 championship each compare to jordans 6