Pinkie_pie said:
Nuvendil said:
HAH Jordan would have peaced out of that Cavs organization. Most players would have checked out asap. It was and is incompetently run. Jordan stuck around because the organization had a brain and was making good moves. They picked up strong players a few years into Jordan's career and had staff that knew what they were doing.
Honestly, the fact Lebron went back to Cleveland shoots your "chasing rings" argument out of the sky. He could have had more chances had he stayed in Miami, but he wanted a championship for his home so he went back.
As for picking players other than Jordan, every player has their place and some are flat out more flexible. You pick Jordan, your effectiveness is going to be determined by how good of a triangle you can assemble and how good your coach is at running it. Because that's Jordan's place, as part of the triangle. Other players you can be a lot more flexible with how you assemble your team and who coaches. That is less a GOAT discussion thing and more of a strategic thing. I would personally go Chamberlain over Jordan cause I know he can adapt to at least three radically different roles depending on what you need.
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We never know if jordan would have left that Cleveland team but the fact that he didnt leave chicago whenthey were struggling suggest otherwise. And you can bet that if Cleveland didnt have the no.1 draft pick lebron wouldnt come back to Cleveland. Cleveland with kyrie and love was in a better possible to win a championship with a bang up wade and health issue bosh. So again you havent told me a good reason why you would start a team with bird curry or lebron over jordan if you want to win championships. Jordan never melted in the finals like curry, lebron and bird did. Jordan won 6 championships with only 1 all star which is twice as much as bird curry and lebron even though they had multiple all stars for most of their careers
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No, Jordan got his screw ups out of the way in the seasons he never made it to the finals.
And actually, I did give a reason, you just don't want to hear it.
