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Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:
I don't like the fact that all X570 boards will come with a fan. Those small fans have traditionally failed sooner than most desired, plus tend to do a lot of noise.

I'm surprised by the lack of a 16-core part, but they'll probably save it for Threadripper. Also, that both 3700 and 3800 have the same number of cores and only differ in clocks and TDP probably means that overclockers should go with the later.

I like that the entry parts have 6 cores.

I'm also surprised that Navi turns out to be a new architecture (with a lame name), but maybe it's because it's such a big refinement or improvement over other GCN parts that they to differentiate is somehow. In any case, we'll see if the claims they make are real of just PR talk.

I think they left the 16 core out for several reasons:

1. Not needed yet to counter Intel in some way, and previous gen Threadripper fills that niche nicely right now.

2. Limited volume of the 7nm Production at TSMC limits the amount of chips AMD can receive. Imagine AMD also running headlong into supply constrains just like Intel...

3. The Mainboards. It's probable that the early Mainboards were not totally to the task for more than 8 cores, so they take it slow to give the mainboard partners time to adapt their boards, drivers, and bioses.

Yeah, Navi will get interesting. Hence why I'm eager to see that PC gaming show on E3, as they announced more information on Navi there.

My biggest problem with the idea that AMD will launch a 16-core Ryzen product in the 3x00 family is that they've already used all the high numbers and, while not improbably (as they did it with Threadripper), it would be a bit stupid to make the flagship model the 3950X.

Had they left the 3900 name empty, I could see the possibility of such monster but, right now, I only see it if Intel somehow has a hidden gem that catches everybody with their guard low. And the 9900KS doesn't fit that role.

As for their GPU, I do also want to see how it performs in the real world. After all, Strange Brigade is a game that we know runs very well on AMD hardware, so that 10% advantage over the 2070 in that particular game doesn't tell us much.