(UPDATE): AMD Unveil RX 5000 (Navi) with their new architecture design, Interview with Lisa SU, Ray Tracing detail on another SKU's variant, PCIe 4.0 help fast loading on PS5

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shikamaru317 said:

Trumpstyle said:

I don't know the die size, Lisa Su said it was small on stage and I assume it's a midrange card putting it about 200mm2.

Yep amd has about 18% advantage in Strange bigarde so its average performance should land a bit below geforce 2070 but I think this is a cut-down card. A sapphire PR spokeperson said amd will be launching 2 cards in july, a $400 card and a $500 card, so this fit perfectly with the $400 card. It wouldn't make much sense for amd to launch this for $500 if it has less performance than geforce 2070 but the same price.

Edit: It looks like Nvidia released a new driver in April that improved performance in strange bigarde by 15% in 1440p and 25% in 4k so we're not sure what we looking at.

Looking at game benchmarks again, this card should land slightly below geforce 2070 in average benchmarks if amd was using nvidias latest drivers, Amd just had a much bigger advantage in strange bigard than I thought. This is average benchmarks on the site techpowerup. I hope they are not planning to sell this card for $500.

If this thing is $400 at retail I will be highly amazed if PS5 uses it. PS4 essentially used a desktop GPU that cost $180 at retail at the time PS4 released. Sony would be losing money if they put a $400 at retail GPU into PS5 (probably $300 for them since they buy in bulk and get special deals), and I recall them saying that they don't want to sell hardware at a loss anymore. 

What happened to the rumor from about 2 month's ago that the 5800 would cost $280-320 with the 5700 coming in around $220-250 (right in the price range range for potential PS5 usage)? 

Sony doesn't pay retail prices, they pay wafer costs + margins to AMD, now we know why the gonzalo codename said it was a navi 10 lite. Amd and Sony has probably done some customizations to Navi 10 to reduce the die size, they need to get it down to about 200-210mm2 to fit 8core zen2 cpu in a 350mm2 apu/soc.

Not sure what rumors you talking about, I'm assuming adoredtv, they were fake dude. He got tricked, stuff like that can happen.

About gpu prices for PC, I expect them to come down big when Nvidia launches their 7nm gpu lineup.