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Random_Matt said:
A load of rubbish then?

Pretty much. Just like Polaris.
I will likely still pick up one though.

25% IPC improvement is pretty inconsequential considering they are moving to a new process.
The jump between Fiji and Vega was anywhere from 5-30% as well.

Plus we need to keep in mind that a 25% IPC improvement is not a 25% improvement in gaming performance.

Trumpstyle said:

How you come to that conclusion?? Navi is super-good, its midrange 200mm2 gpu will beat geforce 2070 a 445mm2 gpu. But Navi is on 7nm while geforce is on 12nm. When Nvidia launches their gpus on 7nm I expect navi to still be superior on mm2/performance but a bit lower on effiency/performance. We shall see

How do you know Navi's size? Anandtech pegs the GPU as a monolithic part.

As for pitting it up against nVidia... Navi only bested the Geforce 2070 by 10% in a title that favors Graphics Core Next.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14412/amd-teases-first-navi-gpu-products-rx-5700-series-in-july-25-improved-perf

Random_Matt said:
Trumpstyle said:

How you come to that conclusion?? Navi is super-good, its midrange 200mm2 gpu will beat geforce 2070 a 445mm2 gpu. But Navi is on 7nm while geforce is on 12nm. When Nvidia launches their gpus on 7nm I expect navi to still be superior on mm2/performance but a bit lower on effiency/performance. We shall see

It's AMD, sucked for a long time and would not recommend anyone to buy them. Only in consoles because they are cheap, at the end of the day they need to spend money to develop something new. 

Beating 2070, nope.

The name is also silly. We have already had a Radeon 5000 series... Plus I don't think it's 10x better than a Radeon RX 500 series part either.

Either way, it improves upon the prior parts, but not massively so. - It's still a win for the consumer though if AMD can assist in bringing nVidia's prices down.



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