Hypocrisy on Abortion?

[DonFerrari]

vivster said:

DonFerrari said:

It is alive, and depending on the place you look abortion is permitted even after there is a heartbeat

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/02/addressing-new-yorks-new-abortion-law/

This have that until 24 weeks it is open to the mother to abort, after it then you have risk to the mother or preganancy not viable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability

A fetus when reaching 24 weeks already have a 40-70% chance of living if given birth instead of killed.

It is permitted only in cases where the mother's life is in danger or there's something seriously wrong with the fetus. In which case when you abort you are not losing a life, you're saving one.

But we're not talking about 24 weeks here, we're talking about less than 10, at which point there is nothing alive that even resembles a human.

Have you read the link?

Under the old law, New York criminalized abortion unless it was a “justifiable abortional act” — meaning it was within 24 weeks of the commencement of pregnancy or necessary to “preserve” the mother’s life.

The RHA removes abortion from the state’s penal code altogether; the homicide statute still defines a “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive.” Killing a baby once born was and is still considered a homicide

It was already allowed to terminate if under 24 weeks (even if at 24 weeks it can be born with 40-70% success rate). Now they expanded the conditions for abortion over 24 weeks.

Baalzamon said:

vivster said:

It's called punishing people for a crime. Willingly ruining a human's life is a crime. That's why we also "dictate" what humans are allowed to put in their body before getting into their car. Or how we "dictate" what small children have to put into their body to not get terrible diseases and infect others.

Allowing everything or nothing isn't the debate here. There obviously have to be rules that need to be enforced. It's called "society". That is, if laws make any sense and are meant to protect people, which the recently updated abortion laws are not.

Willingly ruining a human life...but the people saying abortion is ok are absolutely saying it isn't a human life. They are saying it's just this thing you can end. If causing them to be disabled is willingly ruining their life, then isn't killing them also doing that?

Logic. Please don't use it. By the argument of Vivster if the mother used drugs and alcohol until before the limit allowed to abort it is all fine since it wasn't a human being yet.

You are free to do whatever you want with your body even if it involves murdering your baby, but then you aren't allowed to drink???