Hypocrisy on Abortion?

[o_O.Q]

JWeinCom said:

o_O.Q said:

"So, please clarify for me.  Can one support abortion without thinking of a fetus as a parasite?"

you know initially i would have said yes but now that i've actually thought a bit more on it i'd actually say no

what do you view the fetus as if not as a parasite? and obviously i'm not making a literal comparison

i should not have said that the context is irrelevant but this is getting so long and pedantic that its just ridiculous

you are taking examples where the comparison is being done between the exact same object and pretending that this is the same as a comparison between objects that are not the same

"you have the Switch with the red and blue Joycon just like me"

"these taste just like McDonald's fries"

in the case of "these taste" that could be referring to crackers, would you still argue that this is a literal comparison and not metaphorical?

as i already said comparisons between objects that are not the same cannot be literal comparisons, i clarified this multiple times even posting the definition of literal comparison

"Raising taxes gives people a choice, based on how severe the increase is"

nice bait an switch tactic there but this thread wasn't about taxes in general but the kind of taxes ubi calls for which raise the tax rate substantially

the country i can think of that is the closest to having something like ubi would be sweden which has a tax rate of 70%... which may actually be higher if applied in the states considering various factors like the us helping them with military spending

"All of which is not to say that UBI is a good idea"

i love how you dishonestly pretend i'm talking about a minimal tax initially then go back to talking about ubi afterwards

1.  So... then you view the fetus as a parasite?  Because you've said that you support a right to abortion.  

2.  If I said "these taste just like McDonald's fries" in reference to crackers, then I wouldn't be making a metaphorical statement, I would be making a weird and inaccurate statement.  Unless they made McDonald's fries flavored crackers or something. 

If I were talking about some other kind of fries, like fries I made at home, that would be a valid and literal comparison between two different things. At any rate, I'm not arguing that just like can't be used for a metaphor.  I'm arguing that it's not always the case, as you've been insisting. 

"as i already said comparisons between objects that are not the same cannot be literal comparisons"

Ummmmmmmmmm... what? Yes they can.  We compare objects that are not the same all the time.  That's usually the purpose of comparisons.  A tiger is bigger than a lion.  Ice is colder than water.  Whiskey is more alcoholic than beer.  Chocolate tastes better than cabbage.  A car is more expensive than a pack of peanuts.  Hydrox are just like Oreos.  Hey Arnold's head is shaped just like a football.  A clementine is just like a small orange.  A kiwi has vitamin C just like an orange.  The impressionist sounded just like Whitney Houston.  The Playstation Move is just like a Wiimote.  These are all comparisons between different objects and they're all literal.

This is getting pedantic because you keep demonstrating that you're really confused on this subject.  I'm sorry, just like does not necessarily indicate a metaphor.  I've given you about a dozen examples of it being used in a literal sense. 

3.  I honestly don't know the mechanics of a UBI and how it would work.  Which is the main reason I'm undecided on it.  It it's a tax on the super wealthy it might not necessarily raise taxes on an individual who has to work by all that much.  Which was really not the main point I was saying, which you completely blew by.  There is a big difference between raising a tax on people and banning them from being able to do something to their body.  Just not nearly the same. 

"So... then you view the fetus as a parasite?  Because you've said that you support a right to abortion.  "

its quite interesting to me how despite me asking you like 3 times at least you can't answer the question

"Ummmmmmmmmm... what? Yes they can."

i was referring to what i was speaking about previously that you conveniently ignored

"the definition of literal language is as follows "Literal language means exactly what it says"

what is the context for the development of a baby in the womb? and what is the context for the development of a parasite within the body?"

you've been spending this whole discussion moving away from your initial claim about babies and parasites to have an argument over linguistics which i'm not ashamed to say i haven't studied for a fairly long time

"I honestly don't know the mechanics of a UBI and how it would work."

so why have you been pretending that you do for the whole discussion?

 

" It it's a tax on the super wealthy it might not necessarily raise taxes on an individual who has to work by all that much."

and then they move their operations to another country and then you're fucked even more since you've then lost all the jobs they provided

"There is a big difference between raising a tax on people and banning them from being able to do something to their body. "

even if the taxes are so high that they don't have the money to do things to their body? suppose i want to put in extra large breast implants but i can't because all of my disposable income is being sucked away by taxes?