Hypocrisy on Abortion?

[o_O.Q]

SpokenTruth said:

o_O.Q said:

How do you ensure everyone a basic income? you do so by siphoning more resources from the people who are gathering resources to begin with(typically men ironically) restricting their bodily autonomy... seeing the parallels here? Is this not like a baby siphoning resources from a mother? 

Please discuss if its a fair comparison or not below

Your parallels have one major failure point.  A UBI enables the lowest income earners in society to become contributing members of said society which in turn helps the whole society.  An unplanned child cannot be a contributing member of society for nearly 2 decades.  Worse still for a mother who may already be struggling and now has to struggle even harder.

ironmanDX said:
That's disgusting.

I'm all for abortion unless it's being used as birth control. If you did the deed, face up to the responsibility.

Are you including the paternal figure here too?

"Your parallels have one major failure point.  A UBI enables the lowest income earners in society to become contributing members of said society"

that's not true

for many people if their basic needs are provided for they won't feel the need to provide value to society, since they'll be provided for regardless

what are you basing your argument on exactly?

"An unplanned child cannot be a contributing member of society for nearly 2 decades. "

and they may never become one, that's true... which isn't any different from ubi anyway

i'm just amused at the hypocrisy inherent in saying we need to be compassionate and take care of the downtrodden by taking from those that have more, but when it comes to kids, the argument is fuck those kids because they will be taking resources from the mothers who have more

and democrats can stand there and say this shit and not see that its inconsistent and even outright toxic since it could be argued that poor people occasionally make bad choices that result in their situation but the same can never be said of the unborn