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Faelco on 17 May 2019
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KiigelHeart said:
Faelco said:

Assassinating do not require rising up to her. You didn't follow the series if you don't know that a ruler can be killed in 100 different ways without a single battle. And I bet the writers won't even make her regret anything before killing her.

I started recently to watch the series from the start again, to show it to my girlfriend. It's impressive to see the difference in writing's quality, but also some stuff relevant for this situation. When Daenerys arrives in front of Yunkai, Jorah tells her "You don't need this city, you can go to Westeros and take the Iron Throne, no reason to fight", and she answers something like "There are 20.000 slaves in this city, so there are 20.000 reasons to fight". And you guys think that she's a monster willing to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents for nothing...

Other very interesting part. "Seven kingdoms united in fear of Tywin Lannister". Because that's how you rule by fear. Rule well, control things, and kill your ennemies without mercy. Do anyone think that Tywin would do something like what Daenerys did? No, because it's completely stupid and has no relation at all with "ruling by fear". Dany is no Queen, in this last episode she transformed into nothing: no reign, no ideals, no legacy. She will die in the next episode and will be vaguely remembered as a one-time catastrophe, nothing more. That's the saddest part for her, she will just be a short tale told by old nannies to kids like Bran at the beginning of the series.

Yes rulers always risk getting assassinated. Varys already tried to poison her at the beginning of the episode.

Dany is also not Tywin. What a great show it would be if every character made the same choice. Just like in real life where none of us does irrational things eh?

Dany is a complex character and there's examples or her violent behaviour. It's been discussed here. In the end, this is GRRM's ending, it's in her character to do this. If you feel writers didn't deliver it well that's ok. I liked it, it's not spoon-fed but there's enough to see her doing it. 

You fail to see what she did is basically the stuff of the Gods. Tywin ruling by fear is nothing on it. So I sure hope Jon & friends will stop her. 

If the writers make her not regret it that's fine with me. As long as they don't make her go completely Jack Nicholson from Shining or some over the top Joker kind a villain.

Like I said, Tywin did thousands times more than what she did. She's insignificant, the opposite of a God. She will be killed quickly, and forgotten quickly. She will be nothing more than a "remember the time when a dragon attacked King's Landing?". That's it. 99% of Westeros won't even know her name.

And "complex character" doesn't describe what happened in the episode, at all. There was no depth or complexity in the massacre, just "here, she's mad and became a villain".

But hey, if you even defend the stones C4 explosions, then I guess it's useless to keep talking about this. A bit more and you will say stuff like "Jaime had a great ending for his redemption arc" or "Arya totally has reasons to be the only one resisting dragon fire". It's actually nice that it doesn't take a lot to make you happy with it!

Last edited by Faelco - on 17 May 2019