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Machiavellian said:

o_O.Q said:

"The article isn't about open borders"

i didn't say it was i asked you a question on your stance with regards to this issue

should the us have open borders?

isn't it interesting how you can't answer the question?

"The second goal is to give them the ability to make their claim for asylum."

if they are denied are you in favor of throwing them back to die?

My response is that your question is an excuse to accept the situation happening based on the article.  What does it matter if I accept open borders or not since that isn't what the article is about.  You asked a question looking to support what is happening, it really matters not if I accept open or close borders since that isn't what's at stake.  People dying trying to get into the US is what's at stake and the solutions we accept to stop it is really the question.

To answer your question so you can feel good, No I do not accept open borders, I have answered this question before in political threads.  Just because I do not support open borders does not mean I accept any means necessary to stop illegal immigration.  I definitely do not support looking for ways to cause these people to die in some hope this will deter them from trying to make a dangerous desert crossing.

Also if the person is not given Asylum, why would I be in favor of throwing them back to die.  Why does that need to be the solution.  Are you saying we need to take them back into the desert find a nice comfortable spot and leave them there or just send them back to the country they came from.  Why don't we just do what we do with anyone who seeks asylum and get denied.  We already have a process for this and it's not the solution you presented.

"What does it matter if I accept open borders or not since that isn't what the article is about"

its important because it would be a waste of time to discuss border security with someone who wants the borders to be gone right?

"To answer your question so you can feel good, No I do not accept open borders"

why not? why would you deny people access to the united states?

"Just because I do not support open borders does not mean I accept any means necessary to stop illegal immigration."

huh? any means necessary? you mean securing the border? since you do not support open borders what measures would you take to prevent people from entering the country?

"You asked a question looking to support what is happening"

it has nothing to do with whether i personally support it or not or whether the majority of americans support it or not

it is about what is law, what is in the constitution, what people far smarter than you or I have laid down as the rules to govern a particular society

"Also if the person is not given Asylum, why would I be in favor of throwing them back to die"

you just equated not being allowed into the country with death did you not?