When did you first notice that grafix had diminishing returns?

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Your speculation comes from you assuming big strides were not made on ps4 hardware utilization based on it being off the shelf parts which is nonsense. if you told most people that  Radeon HD 7850 With 8 core Jaguar would be able to run RDR2, Horizon, GOW, and Battlefront they would have thought you were crazy. Even it's off the shelf parts developers still need years of experience to max out the hardware. It took nearly 6 years for some of the most talented developers to actually get games on par with 360 on ps3 , some developers were actually never able to. 

Again, it's not speculation that mature, standardized parts are easier to work with and fully harness than exotic new hardware like the PS3's Cell processor, that's fact.

I never argued that fact. You saying that it's impossible for ps4 to match ps3 graphical progress because ps3 was exotic complex hardware that's my argument with you. As Pemalite explained above with halo 3 to 4, massive visual gains are more likely to come from developers learning how to make the best use of the hardware as well as evolving there engine and rendering technics to make best use of the hardware.