| RolStoppable said: If you look at the NeoGAF thread with the shipment data again, the SNES and Wii both lasted the same time. Shipments in their eighth fiscal year became negligible, about ~1.5m each. I hope you noticed that the Wii data isn't complete because the thread was created before the Wii was discontinued. I'd call Skyward Sword a bad Zelda game. And after Breath of the Wild, even most of those who defended Skyward Sword for years have come around to adjust their opinions of SS. Much of Wii's success was based on getting back to the basics, i.e. doing what made Nintendo big in the first place with the NES. If you browse the bestsellers list of the NES, you will notice that simple sports games like Golf and Tennis have sold quite a lot of copies; the modern version of those games was Wii Sports. Wii Play modernized games like Pong, Duck Hunt and Combat. New Super Mario Bros. Wii was the first new 2D Mario game on a home console since 1990's Super Mario World. Skyward Sword missed the mark spectacularly because it is the most linear Zelda game whereas the original Zelda on the NES offered an open world to explore. If you wonder about Breath of the Wild's success, Nintendo's developers created a prototype of BotW with NES graphics and really used the original Zelda game as their inspiration. SS and BotW have a difference like night and day, and that means that SS won't sell big numbers on any console because it doesn't meet the expectations that the market at large has towards a Zelda game. Your huge paragraph contains a lot of rambling, but it also provides the explanation for it. You've made up your mind and you aren't going to change it. The only thing I want to touch on is that the 3DS did not really fine because it caused Nintendo's first loss in a full financial year since they had started making video games. |
SNES lasted since 1990 to 1999 according to that data, Wii didn't last that much. But i guess, i am not going to get you to understand my point. The point was basically the decline Wii suffered in question of 2-3 years that no console has ever suffered at the same degree. Every console basically declines at some point, Nintendo consoles usually decline at the same time, PS consoles last longer, X360 lasted even longer than PS3. But even between Nintendo consoles, no console went to sell more than 20M to 5M in a matter of 3 years (using VGC numbers). It was just an anecdotal data, a curiousity, i wasn't trying to convince anybody, but it was just a number. I wasn't trying to figure out the reasons why it happened. It just happened. One day it was the hottest item in gaming and the other day is was not. Just that.
As for Skyward Sword. I liked a lot the visual artstyle, but everything else was a drag. It's one of the games that i consider overrated just because of the name of the franchise. It was not a bad game, but no a 90+ game either. BOTW was what the Zelda franchise needed...for years. It still not perfect in my opinion, but it was in the right direction nonetheless.
I get your point on Wii going back to basics, but i don't agree on that as much because it was N64 the console who started the modern Mario Golfs, Mario Tennis, Mario Partys, ...Wii Sports and Wii Play were just the same concept only this time with motion controls. And 2D Mario, yes, but it came in 2009, when Wii was already phenomenon everywhere, hardly the reason of why Wii had sold so much until then. I'll admit it helped the Wii to keep selling a lot though.
And that paragraph was not rambling. It was a polite way to say that your arguments do not convince me to change my opinion. But i guess this site can't accept other opinions. "You are with me or against me" mentality. I think a lot what i say here, and of course i won't change my opinion here just because an argument in a afternoon. Who i am, like Ross when Phoebe forces him to admit maybe he was wrong in his ideals??. I thought the same in 2009 (when i didn't understood then why Wii was selling so much), i thought the same in 2012 when WiiU launched, and i still think the same in 2019. I don't expect you changing your opinion either. Let's accept we are on different points of view, and let's finish it here, in good terms.
