Global Hardware 6 April 2019

[peachbuggy]

colafitte said:

peachbuggy said:

Your original post quite clearly mentioned it, as does this one i'm quoting. Nintendos' statement in January was misleading due to Nintendos' well known conservatism. I would not take that as gospel, nor would i take VGChartz's numbers as gospel either. They have just been adjusted upwards and they are just as likely to be again after Nintendos' end of FY report. Also 2.5-3m is a lot to be in transit/sitting on shelves. You seem to be on a 1-man mission to discredit Switch numbers, just as Quickrick (Rip) was before you. Well, i hope you don't take being wrong as personally as he did to his detriment and eventual downfall :( 

On a mission?, oh come on.....My original post had a take in each console and the least pessimistic was the Switch one, but is me talking about Switch in this site and everytime i am accused of something...despite being right in the end (like i was for Shipments in Q3 and consumer sales at the end of the year, in fact i was spot on). And no, in no moment i ever said or insinuated Q3 was overshipped. Every succesful console in the holiday season leaves around 2-3M units on stock left during Q3. That's not overship but is indeed a lot of units left and those units left are sold during the next year.

If you consider a Nintendo official statement "misleading" and "known conservative" for what they're going to sell in the next quarter talk for yourself because that's just your opinion, mine is different.

You said 2'5-3M on transit is a lot, if you refer to end of December, you're wrong, if you are talking about March, you are correct, and if that's the case i agree with you, that's why i don't expect more than 17'0M shipped and why i give the possibility that if indeed shipped more then VGC is undertracking Switch. I really don't know how i can be more specific and honest about Switch situation sales without being treated as a hater by some people here..., always the same story....

Prove me wrong or in denial about Switch JUST ONCE and then you can say that i'm on a mission, if not, i will appreciate stoping coments like this because yes, they're personal. Thanks.

Yes, that's just how you are perceived. As on a mission to undervalue the sales potential for the Switch at every opportunity, particularly on this thread and the March 16th sales thread. Your original post implied the Switch was overshipped in Q3 even to the extent you claimed sold would be higher than shipped in Q4. Your original post wasn't more optimistic for the Switch in mine and any others' opinions here. If i was to be brutally honest, almost your whole premise here is pretty much anti-switch and trying to downplay any positives for it. As for your claim that Switch would struggle to reach its amended sales target is laughable. As for how many units in transit/store shelves in Q3, that's pretty much up to the individuals interpretation. Nothing is particularly "normal" for that time of year. 

Nintendo are pretty much their own worst enemy for unintentionally misleading people with their "Sold through" comments. They would be better off not mentioning it at all if i'm honest. It was the 3rd time they have done it this gen and "as of 30th. Jan". is misleading because it could have passed the sales target prior to that. Nintendo was being deliberately vague, as they had no real, up to date definitive sales data. Same goes for the numbers. "Over" could be 1 unit or 999,999 units. Again, being that they are conservative they didn't want to be seen as misleading the public/investors but ended up doing so anyway. You took their numbers as literal but they were only a very conservative estimate and deliberately vague, just so as it was in the past and also proven to be conservative and unintentionally misleading. They just wanted to wait until they were absolutely positive by their data that they had passed the landmark. So it could have been quite a bit over by the time they claimed said figure. Not the 1st time they have done it either. Probably won't be the last.

FYI quite a few on Resetera are predicting 18m+ shipped for Switch last FY and i see no reason to disagree with them. As for your comments about being right about shipments and consumer sales,

a) Show me where you were proven right about Q3 shipments.

b) The only way you were proven "Right" about consumer sales are because of your agenda, going on and on about them being too high until downward adjustments were made here. I fully expect it to be adjusted back up on here once the Q4 briefing has been published. If by the sales team listened to your incessant insistences that the Switch was overtracked here then, sure you were right

but prepare to be proven wrong on both counts, including the last quarter, once the Q4 results from Nintendo have been published. At least we don't have to wait long :)

Last edited by peachbuggy - on 23 April 2019